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Re: [alpine-devel] Improving Alpine Linux documentation

From: Consus <>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 01:59:33 +0300

On 15:36 Tue 12 Dec, A. Wilcox wrote:
> Is this channel available on Matrix as well?

Honestly, I don't know. It was not me who created it.
> This is how we do it in Adélie. It seems to work well.

Do you have third-party (non-core) contributors? I believe that this
model adds additional complexity for the regular folks. It would be nice
to have a positive example.
> I'm glad that Alpine core still realises that. I have been worried
> lately that there is too much buy-in to GitHub from the Alpine
> developers. Do we really want all of that valuable discussion about
> PRs and such locked away in a corporation's databases? How long will
> GitHub stay afloat before turning to ads, pay-to-use, or even just
> plain disappear from the Internet?

Well, it's Git. If GitHub goes dark, there is gitlab / bitbucket / etc.
The migration will be instant. But still, it's better to have the tool
that you can control yourself.
> Reduce, but not eliminate. Honestly, the only true way to eliminate
> spam is to have closed registrations (you have to poke an Alpine
> person to get an account on the wiki). But that adds a lot of work,
> so it probably isn't a good solution. Requiring valid email will take
> out 80% of it so I suppose that's a very good start.

Actually, I want to have a chat with Archlinux wiki maintainers about
the spam-reducing. They solved this problem somehow.
> I don't think any of this should be stored on the wiki. All of this
> should be on the main site, and never on the Wiki. It certainly won't
> change very often, so there's no reason to need for the community to
> be able to edit it.

Yeah, sure, why not. Archlinux an Gentoo just keep this stuff on the
site directly. This opens a question: what else may be considered
sensitive enough? If nothing more than that, than (in my opinion) Wiki
is the perfect match for now, if the spam problem will be solved.

Received on Wed Dec 13 2017 - 01:59:33 UTC