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Re: [alpine-devel] Julia missing from alpine v3.8

From: ecsx <ecsx_at_protonmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 00:11:10 +0000

Awesome! Just knowing it's not gone for good is enough to me.
I'll just use v0.6 by tagging the Alpine v3.7 repository.
I'm sure packaging whole languages are hard task. Let's hope your difficulties help Julia devs simplify their build methods.

Love,
ecs


‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Sunday, September 16, 2018 6:03 PM, Shiz <hi_at_shiz.me> wrote:

> Hi, maintainer here —
>
> I’ve been looking at trying to get Julia running, but last time I
> checked it wasn’t trivial and I was running out of time, sadly.
> I can try taking another look at it over the week seeing the demand,
> but even if further delayed it’s not gone for good. :)
>
> - Shiz
>
> > On 15 Sep 2018, at 14:05, ecsx ecsx_at_protonmail.com wrote:
> > That worked, thanks.
> > Still unfortunate that it's stuck on v0.6 when Julia v1.0 milestone was reached.
> > Also I suggest to add a note on https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.8.0-released.html that Julia is not available after upgrade.
> > It was a big blow to see only afterwards that it was gone.
> > Any word from the maintainer about eventual Julia comeback? Or if it's gone for good.
> > Best,
> > ecs
> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 11:48 AM, Daniel Isaksen d_at_duniel.no wrote:
> > Hi,
> > You should be able to do package pinning and install older Julia from 3.7 on 3.8 if you really need/want it.
> >
> > Sincerely / Med vennlig hilsen,
> > Daniel Isaksen d_at_duniel.no (https://duniel.no)
> > On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 4:45 PM, ecsx ecsx_at_protonmail.com wrote:
> > It's unfortunate but I don't know much about build systems either. I couldn't help anyway.
> > All I wanted was to use Julia like I did on Alpine v3.7.
> > I'm even considering going back from Alpine v3.8 to v3.7 because I need Julia for an university course.
> > But thanks for the help!
> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > On Saturday, 8 September 2018 10:19, Jean-Louis Fuchs ganwell_at_fangorn.ch wrote:
> >
> > > Hi ecsx
> > > You're absolutely right, these things should be upstreamed and that is also what keeps me from doing it. I don't know anything about julia. It is too scary for me:
> > >
> > > - Their build-system is completely hand-written, so as a maintainer you have to find out everything you know about standard build-systems again
> > > - Then almost every patch for 0.6.2 fails with 1.0.0 and most not because the issues are fixed
> > > - Too many tests fail
> >
> > > Complicated packages are quite common, julia isn't alone. But it requires a lot of dedication to get it working and then get fixes upstreamed.
> > >
> > > You are very welcome to give it a try. I would help you to get started with alpine development. We can talk on IRC.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jean-Louis
> > >
> > > On Sat, 8 Sep 2018, at 12:38, ecsx wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Jean.
> > > > What's non-standard about it?
> > > > Could we propose a patch or at least report upstream?
> > > > Thank you.
> > > > All the best.
> > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > > On Tuesday, 4 September 2018 19:00, Jean-Louis Fuchs ganwell_at_fangorn.ch wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi ecsx
> > > > >
> > > > > > It has a lot patches and seems rather fragile. I check if 1.0 less
> > > > > > fragile, but no promises.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems they added even more non-standard procedures to their build-system. One can waste a lot of time on this apk. Since I don't use julia, I'm out.
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Jean-Louis
> >
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