Received: from mx0.riseup.net (mx0.riseup.net [198.252.153.6]) by gbr-app-1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDA4322587D for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Sat, 30 Mar 2024 10:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fews01-sea.riseup.net (fews01-sea-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.109]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4V6DLN6vrcz9tp0 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Sat, 30 Mar 2024 10:39:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1711795201; bh=oTMuzhn8Kp5rIgOvgyW/UqVDP4hclEocBc2orFOupU8=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=UNuAZVBnSoEmHjx8M1SaGm9JLyEoIdGJMVAKiCV0dHmL2m6iCaoi9M9XSR2R12wmv pmIiOwSdXlPh4RxSxk8gzhaGj5PoFmOucJcidoO1NGuZjKaIRtnwJ3lQAVodHROQAK KesEiEWGfUBuI2RRw8OlS+E5wxo/CJnjqOigMbp8= X-Riseup-User-ID: 4FAF04EBDA72AD1E5B0FFABBFD2E752468E69703B4DBD3117475A005E54C217A Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews01-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4V6DLN3nDGzJqbV for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Sat, 30 Mar 2024 10:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9950f380892dea7134b69901f5ee5f7c9283ca47.camel@riseup.net> Subject: Re: XZ force downgrade led to removal of many packages From: Ralf Mardorf To: ~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2024 11:39:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <974c079f-8e90-495c-a9f8-c266eb458f09@vk4msl.com> References: <1c614505-92f2-42b4-ba46-b227777e0d5b@lodispoto.com> <974c079f-8e90-495c-a9f8-c266eb458f09@vk4msl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 20:15 +1000, Stuart Longland VK4MSL wrote: > Now, AlpineLinux, like Gentoo=E2=80=A6 >=20 > - uses OpenRC (Gentoo *can* use systemd, but the default is OpenRC) > - does not use RPM or DEB packages > - likely will not be patching OpenSSH to support systemd-notify since=20 > the latter is not present Hi, security through naivety is new to me. For example, Arch uses systemd by default, but does not link openssh directly to liblzma. Arch uses neither RPM nor DEB. From a naive point of view, Arch is not affected either. "However, out of an abundance of caution, we advise users to remove the malicious code from their system by upgrading either way. This is because other yet-to-be discovered methods to exploit the backdoor could exist." - https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/arch-announce@lists.archlinux.org= /thread/MX363534MGK44R5UIYPK4GABKHF76TYC/ Regards, Ralf