Subject: [alpine-devel] alpine-1.7.25 released

From: Natanael Copa <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:54:30 +0200

Alpine 1.7.25 is released.

http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Release_Notes_for_Alpine_1.7.25

-nc

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From: Jan Klod <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:42:29 +0300

Hello!

I am about to install Alpine right now, but I am unsure about how should I do.
It would be best to have development environment for my Alpine system 
and "production" OS.

Sure, I am new to Alpine, so maybe it's better to ask you how should I begin?
I will have to build my own kernel and some extra apps, that are not readily 
available. 

Advices are welcome...

Jan

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From: Jan Klod <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:47:48 +0300

On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:29 you wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I am about to install Alpine right now, but I am unsure about how should I
> do. It would be best to have development environment for my Alpine system
> and "production" OS.
>
> Sure, I am new to Alpine, so maybe it's better to ask you how should I
> begin? I will have to build my own kernel and some extra apps, that are not
> readily available.
>
> Advices are welcome...
>
> Jan

Is it possible to do that thing like this: 
1. install alpine 1.6 on target system
2. install hardened gentoo as development system and make packages etc there?

What if I want to recompile everything like in gentoo with emerge -uDn world?

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From: Natanael Copa <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:36:55 +0100

> What if I want to recompile everything like in gentoo with emerge -uDn world?

I'd rather go for a more recent version of alpine. Go for 1.7.25 (which
if fairly updated)

As said in previous email, grab the alpine-sdk. From there you emerge
what you want. I have uploaded tons of gentoo tbz2 packages so you don't
need to compile everything.

-nc

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From: Natanael Copa <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:32:36 +0100

> Sure, I am new to Alpine, so maybe it's better to ask you how should I begin?

Normally you just boot the production system from usb/cf, install the
things you need and configure your services. Then you just "lbu commit"
and you're done.

The lbu commit will create an .apkovl.tar.gz file with your changed /etc
files.

> I will have to build my own kernel and some extra apps, that are not

aw... unfortunally its a cumbersome process to get that part started.
But once youre started its failry easy to maintain it. I import new
packages from gentoo and make a release every 2 weeks.

 You can download the latest alpine-sdk, which is a gentoo chroot. You
can either install that as a vserver (if you use vserver) or you can
just chroot into it.

>From there you need to get the portage tree (emerge --sync), the
alpine-portage overlay and finally the alpine-builder scripts.

You can try follow this:
http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/w/index.php?title=Setting_up_the_build_environment

I think its slightly outdated, but I can help you get it running from
IRC on Freenode #alpine if you want, or you can ask here when you get
stuck.

That said, I'm serisouly thinking about simplifying the alpine building
by build it without gentoo.

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