Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 02:56:54 -0600 (CST)
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:=20[alpine-devel]=20The=20install=5Fif=20feature=20in=20apk?=
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From: "Matt Smith" <mcs@darkregion.net>
To: "=?UTF-8?Q?Timo=20Ter=C3=A4s?=" <timo.teras@iki.fi>
Cc: "Natanael Copa" <ncopa@alpinelinux.org>,
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On Saturday, January 8, 2011 2:46am, "Timo Ter=C3=A4s" <timo.teras@iki.fi> =
said:=0A> On 01/08/2011 10:41 AM, Matt Smith wrote:=0A>> On Saturday, Janua=
ry 8, 2011 2:24am, "Timo Ter=C3=A4s" <timo.teras@iki.fi> said:=0A>>> On 01/=
08/2011 09:38 AM, Matt Smith wrote:=0A>>>> On one hand, I think use-flags c=
ould be a great thing, but on the other,=0A>>>> I just don't want to see it=
 get out of hand, or be forced on the user in=0A>>>> order to use the syste=
m.  I think if those 'rules' could be followed, then=0A>>>> we could enjoy =
use-flags.=0A>>>=0A>>> The idea on install_if is that it's completely optio=
nal. You can always=0A>>> install your packages on per-package basis, and y=
ou never need to=0A>>> install the virtual targets.=0A>>>=0A>>> However, in=
stall_if gives you a great help, if you just want some=0A>>> feature X to w=
ork. Like "make all programs localized to Norwegian". It'd=0A>>> be single =
command: "apk add lang-no" instead of going through all the=0A>>> packages =
having Norwegian support and installing the them one by one.=0A>>=0A>> Soun=
ds fair.=0A>>=0A>> On the language packs, would you be leaning more towards=
 virtual packages=0A>> or some sort of use-flags?=0A>>=0A>> Other than that=
, what do you think about using use-flags for installing the=0A>> software =
packages?=0A> =0A> Well. From the apk point of view they are virtual packag=
es. From the=0A> user point of view, they are more like "use flags". Since =
if you install=0A> the virtual master package 'lang-XX' you will get that f=
eature from all=0A> installed packages.=0A> =0A> I personally think that "a=
pk add lang-XX" is better than "edit file=0A> /etc/apk/config and add lang-=
XX to line y". From practical point of=0A> view, they do the same thing.=0A=
> =0A> From APKBUILD point of view, they are more like use flags. You just =
need=0A> to split the package for each "use flag" properly.=0A> =0A> I don'=
t mind if we call them as "virtual targets" or "use flags" as long=0A> as t=
hey are easy to install :)=0A=0AThat's exactly what I'm thinking: it must b=
e easy to install.=0A=0AI'm totally on-board for 'virtual packages'.=0A=0AM=
att



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