X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@mail.alpinelinux.org Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.181]) by mail.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECF3180C661 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 03:24:16 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikHAAkqiU5FpY32/2dsb2JhbABBmUOMI4IpgQaBUwEBBDscKEomJTcJh3IGmH+eCIZAYQSZE4dkhEM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,478,1312171200"; d="scan'208";a="139710856" Received: from 69-165-141-246.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([69.165.141.246]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with SMTP; 02 Oct 2011 23:24:13 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 02 Oct 2011 23:24:14 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 23:24:14 -0400 To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Subject: [alpine-devel] Can Alpine be built with glibc and mdev? Message-ID: <20111003032414.GA27587@waltdnes.org> X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) No, I'm not proposing a fork of Alpine. There are a bunch of unhappy people on the Gentoo-Users list, over the fact that the lead developer for udev wants to put a whole bunch of userspace stuff into the boot process, which forces either merging /usr into the / physical volume, or else booting with initramfs, which is more stuff to go wrong, and very painful to debug when it does go wrong. The udev lead developer is a Redhat employee. The attitude is summarized very well at... http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken?highlight=%28%5C/usr%29 where the poster says, and I quote... > On my fresh Fedora 15 install that's 23 obvious cases. Just because he uses big bloated Redhat doesn't mean everybody else wants to. I understand that standard Alpine uses uclibc, which breaks proprietary stuff like Nvidia video drivers and Flash, and who knows what else. Like I said, I'm not looking to fork Alpine, but I wonder if it can be used as a template for Gentoo with mdev instead of udev. I am not a programmer, but I can... ./configure --with-various-options && make && install Using Gentoo, I've become familiar with "make menuconfig", so I'm willing to take a crack at it. If it's promising, I'll submit it to the Gentoo dev list as a potential way around the udev mess. -- Walter Dnes --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---