X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@mail.alpinelinux.org Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03206DC00E7 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 00:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75E420A46 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 07 Nov 2012 19:31:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=bpSknnWf5hawtlcq1KSSkk 4WBxU=; b=tS3x/9KAm1p4wjQz7FmuDdfwoI0/zONU5H4a2mUKAEEpWRYIcFgIey ciUaYK2eLhMi6RIE9ncl2fAVRg/UGt5cH6AMEVqy+nWS3YYuo5b7nwaO7wJSkZdN a8im7Jcpfw7W4uC768tEJsZaqRnvTI59uXTBzxZNWGewZPOSEgZbA= X-Sasl-enc: ALOkk3mDsZ9BMaNMyKw+PiisHFsGDd29Mz5Lil7Ketmm 1352334695 Received: from localhost (unknown [69.86.161.244]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A320A482504 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:31:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:31:35 -0500 From: Dubiousjim To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Subject: [alpine-devel] Difficulties with a Mac mini Message-ID: <20121108003135.GB3090@vaio.jimpryor.net> X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) I have a Mac mini I was successfully running Alpine 2.4.5-ish on. I had installed Alpine there sometime around 2.3 and upgraded until now. Today I changed the repos to 2.5 and did an `apk upgrade -U -a`, cleaned up the .apk-new files, checked the /boot files and so on, and rebooted to load the new kernel. No joy. I get a kernel panic and can only see the end of a trace reporting stuff about ata. I'm not sure how to see the whole output. Anyway, I then attempted to boot from an external medium to downgrade the system back to the 2.4 repos until we get a new kernel. Apple's hardware is of course completely open and flexible...Not. This machine won't boot via USB, but only via a CD. So I burned a 2.5 CD and tried to boot from that, in case the problem was, say, with my initrd. No, same kernel panic. I had an older CD from 2.3 something, but this machine is too finicky and refuses to even attempt to boot from that. Maybe the burn wasn't good, or the disk has gotten damaged. So I downloaded and burned a 2.4.6 ISO. Checked the sha1, burned it slowly, and verified the write. Everything checks ok. Attempt to boot the mini from this CD. No BIOS interface on Apple machines; instead you have to hold certain keys at startup. And I know which keys to hold but for some damn reason it takes about 30 minutes of power-cycling and key-holding to get the machine to recognize that there's a CD in the drive that it should try to boot from. Ok, then we're up and running. Booting from the CD... oh wait, it says the openrc APK file is bad and the startup fails. Strange. Let's try getting a 2.4.5 ISO. Again, checked the ISO, burned it slowly, and verified the write. Everything ok. Attempt to boot the mini from this CD. Booting from the CD... oh darn, the openrc APK file is bad and the startup fails. (Yes, I did double-check that this was a 2.4.5 cd and the other was a 2.4.6.) Weird. Let's try getting a 2.4.4 ISO. Go through the whole process again. This time we boot up fine. So half of this email is just voicing frustration at how difficult Apple hardware is to use with Linux. (It's even worse with FreeBSD.) The other half, which might have a real claim on your attention, is that I had troubles booting this hardware from the 2.5 release kernel. And also had strange issues making it impossible to boot from the 2.4.5 and 2.4.6 ISOs. (These were x86.) It's possible the problems are just with my hardware---maybe the CD drive is failing, for instance. But I thought I'd just chime up in case any of this rings a bell with anyone else. Or might be useful in any other way. -- Dubiousjim dubiousjim@gmail.com --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---