X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@mail.alpinelinux.org Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14E44DC00B5 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:58:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384512060F for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 19:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 26 Jun 2013 19:58:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id :mime-version:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=0dZS51STIUDz1BUZqJctQf LvP7I=; b=p4uIHIkkFJO9Er1+CJ6km3NvaLFRvnUh7plXngtREr9BKxCUGldVP+ Z9YQRFM3FMnW9N39/v50lYwsTQW4ABVxWAZyadFBQHh9z9gzRkpboD5zgqAXDD/q bF6h1mukgUCoAO56HuWlwmKpXwhg+eX28DLLBmZAqcTKRR4AzBT1E= X-Sasl-enc: 5YMavDp+/IWfyKT/zvP4sV21viqBBK9t8F5etZfsJhO3 1372291091 Received: from localhost (unknown [69.86.161.244]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 03C59680239 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 19:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 19:58:10 -0400 From: Dubiousjim To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Subject: [alpine-devel] Mailing list weirdness Message-ID: <20130626235810.GC18572@zen> Mail-Followup-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) I'm trying to send some patches to the list using git-send-email, but they don't seem to be coming through. If I change the To: address to myself, they come through fine. Perhaps the list is just unusually sluggish, though if this email comes through and the patches don't that will be some evidence against that diagnosis. Some lists block emails that aren't from list subscribers. I tried to anticipate that, but no joy. More on this in a moment. Anyway, if this email comes through, it will be evidence that this list is not configured that way. And indeed, I see that I've had two messages go through to the list in the past that weren't from my subscribed address. All my patches are authored by dubiousjim@gmail.com. This email's envelope sender is vaio@jimpryor.net, and its From: header is dubiousjim@gmail.com. Neither of those is the address I subscribed to the list with; I subscribed with a mangled address lists+alpine-devel@jimpryor.net because that makes it easy to implement a global system for filtering mail from mailing lists. (As opposed to keeping track of which identifier headers are present this week for umpteen different lists.) It's easy enough to configure git to set the envelope sender of the patches it sends to the subscribed address. It's also possible to configure git to set the From: to the subscribed address, but this doesn't work so well. In the current version of git, if I do that, the right From: field gets put in the header block. But an old "From: dubiousjim@gmail.com" header (originally created by git-format-patch, because that's the author address on the commits) gets left as the first line of the email bodies. If you supply the --compose switch to git-send-email, then that spurious header is omitted; but I don't want to have to open and close a text editor for every patch I'm sending. Perhaps this is a bug with the current version of git-send-email? Anyway, the upshot is that, given the mismatch between the address on my commits and the address I'm subscribed to the list with, it's easiest if the list accepts emails without verifying the sender is subscribed. It's second-easiest if the list will accept emails so long as the envelope sender OR the From: header is a subscribed address. At the moment, it's more awkward if the list demands that the From: header be a subscribed address. Of course, if this email gets through but my (several) attempts to send the patches don't, I'm currently at a loss to explain why... -- Dubiousjim dubiousjim@gmail.com --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---