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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:26:10 -0800
From: Isaac Dunham <ibid.ag@gmail.com>
To: Natanael Copa <ncopa@alpinelinux.org>
Cc: Timo Teras <timo.teras@iki.fi>, alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org
Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] Could we break the mesa-dev dependency on
 mesa-dbg?
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:15:32PM +0100, Natanael Copa wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:48:50 +0200
> Timo Teras <timo.teras@iki.fi> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:24:22 -0800
> > Isaac Dunham <ibid.ag@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I have several development packages installed, which drag in three
> > > -dbg packages: glib-dbg, musl-dbg, and mesa-dbg.
> > > In theory, I can see the logic for -dev requiring -dbg.
> > > In practice, I've installed the Qt5 development packages to build
> > > the Otter browser, whiich works quite well; these pull in mesa-dev,
> > > thus pulling in mesa-dbg, which is over 100 megabytes I have
> > > absolutely no use for (~7% of total disk usage).
> > > 
> > > Would it be possible to make mesa-dbg an exception, due to its
> > > extremely large installed size?
> > 
> > I think it would be useful if none of the -dev packages depended on the
> > -dbg. It's not a dependency. And it'll made builders run faster, etc.
> >
> > I think -dbg should be standalone. It's needed only when debugging a
> > package.
> > 
> 
> I agree, but unfortunally, we just built world with current behaviour and I just did RC1.
> 
> I can update abuild to not add -dbg as subpackage but then all the
> packages which has -dbg needs to be rebuilt.
<snip>
> Are we ok to do this before RC2?

I'm inclined to suggest doing it after 3.1, given where we are.

> 
> > The only sensible default would be -dbg having install_if=<parent> gdb.
> > Though it might not be feasible to install *all* -dbg packages due to
> > their size. Perhaps add meta-packages "debug-info", and have install_if
> > against that?
> 
> I don't think its worth it. You normally only install -dbg when you are
> trying to debug a specific application.

Agreed.

> 
> -nc

Thanks,
Isaac Dunham


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