X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-pg0-f68.google.com (mail-pg0-f68.google.com [74.125.83.68]) by lists.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F825C4A1E for ; Mon, 1 May 2017 10:03:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mail-pg0-f68.google.com with SMTP id c2so4996261pga.2 for ; Mon, 01 May 2017 03:03:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=Fzp04nqhCHOj6lQXy4cg8kBp3Vkwij+Igu8ZQGLMiAs=; b=WfdBPtyQNNA4LMo/0SHo5f7M10A8zIpQO5Ds5kKDdmDFvn8+/yF3aWWw3utC3p6qT1 AXmkkXKlSWRWb+6cYYgyYiy7arf/8e/SWANElTrvW8VMZIILkactWmjgcUitsqMJkw+4 u+3u9KOo8V8jDSR3cDQdCBnfqGGF0cQ6LvVhlmgF5UxTjg9DowxTyF3HnpSMtkHJpODM 5EfVFS+V8MVkUJUU2JpTew5XFaGea0dOyEwkjsyZLP2nPnvAg1nA0M4OYP4f0TX7VdTA g2P4nKMWQkylXl58OHZ3/d9PH5XFo6gdAfPJfgtMfm8ttA6e6ja4R2FzBa7H8vZ+ANBw NzsA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=Fzp04nqhCHOj6lQXy4cg8kBp3Vkwij+Igu8ZQGLMiAs=; b=e4VTMxQdBUy5ey/IkjjlXVk9II5IC03czL0orLYbWbMvGTJ+KljIRUlOxZjYSZyVSa R2giRBLyWa6rGnVVrJUXCkfAEhOClnsJ8NIgjW1GEFegWWMXxffgMWDCHrOfR+zmRJKf PVAFu3pDCtL06RIUcJE1t7XkAsQIJAlusB5I5yw9E7evIrRsxEFpdZJCmbmFhfE3RFB2 6NJAoOYKQzUeO+rPxM3zR/iW2uISRfQa1Vm0qZ8/xabaL3/uqP6Aa2fZU8/4ZBmU7PQR y94p3vgCnld9bzcyzwGD0rXvMf0y1SR85HU0Eu+lVAlt1VUsq/XOkbcTEWsyV1jeUe+Q jdKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/4HNXaPkoc9n2wwaY893rM7nnQgcNga2AkM5vrtNukbUUD3mMUX fg82JIqUHW1dnUeZ X-Received: by 10.99.2.88 with SMTP id 85mr25914000pgc.23.1493632997950; Mon, 01 May 2017 03:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from microknoppix.localnet ([117.198.35.69]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o23sm23785124pfi.100.2017.05.01.03.03.16 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 May 2017 03:03:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "V.Krishn" Reply-To: vkrishn4@gmail.com To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] grsec go or no-go call for 3.6 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 15:32:48 +0530 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.9.6-64; KDE/4.8.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <20170427154956.GA6880@angua.1042.ch> In-Reply-To: X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201705011532.49139.vkrishn4@gmail.com> > Not viable as machine count is part of the subscription count, which we > can=E2=80=99t predict. We also can=E2=80=99t redistribute the patch or th= e subscription > will be terminated. >=20 > Personally I vote for maintaining grsec for 3.6 and renaming it. > For the 3.6 releases cycle, we should be reasonably able to maintain the > patch against 4.9 LTS. We have to revisit this for 3.7+, preferably soon > after as 3.6 is released, though. If dormant project like this can raise such a sum, I am sure a security=20 project (close to kernel) can even larger. eg. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Dnews_item&px=3DRoundCube-Next- Silent-2017 Not sure what game is at play, but after small overview of other LSM/Non-LS= M=20 stackable/non-stackable projects, I think grsec should be kept alive atleas= t=20 for 3 yrs or so (irrespective of alpinelinux uses it) If original author does not like the idea of such crowdfunding, maybe it=20 should be given a try by community/devs that forks it. =2D-=20 Regards. V.Krishn >=20 > - Shiz >=20 > > On 27 Apr 2017, at 17:49, Jean-Louis Fuchs wrote: > >=20 > > Hi > >=20 > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 09:02:42PM +0200, Natanael Copa wrote: > >> I'd like to keep the grsec patch for 3.6. However, we need rename it. I > >> think we should call it 'linux-hardened'. That way we can remove the > >> patch later or switch to something else in future. > >=20 > > Could we actually find a sponsor and get a subscription? I mean the > > source is GPL after all. > >=20 > > Best, > >=20 > > Jean-Louis --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---