Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E53E9782BCD for <~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 07:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F935C01E0; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 03:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 21 Apr 2020 03:04:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ftml.net; h=date :from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm3; bh=9HIl9u6ozvCBGjaU1rhJC5IzPWG HJ3ImvwpWGkTl/ns=; b=znNkZ4CPkOwyY4D/Hw32dDyidW3+uifBCACXDz6YmVA rSiMrklZtVWbQhM9JEQKxejmYZbfnlAQ1ZLZJuYwPsOjBAjUcu9azxgLx1ok+JYh OWf81iXuuRqKmPdYhd+tblwHD8zUnrllzbD34vOFq0gLY1+LaFOF8CBjDdGvee4x lRjROk1jJA21xD6bImAiW3Pz41vHueOTlWzNNEzShoc/KRmtGYMAzz7GbncnvSiW vWcXt2AHIhbsIvoRC0A8jUbLw92o6q426LWabEiUhMoPfg9SwV6NupweA5KKZdJe vu4iEn5PucJyrFvhm+5GEe0afdRxP69Jv18yQBmoCfA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=9HIl9u 6ozvCBGjaU1rhJC5IzPWGHJ3ImvwpWGkTl/ns=; b=puGaGKzddnW9TEp26APpMM D/LzzDgOP1wZmMbgpMLl7jkCh+AxqIQXEUoEEO6YEYQBX4TbgBDHJqJ36+dUKwsU sYtva6JQRDn5oAm2xlTko+euzcv4TmLNWd6rJf6BAHFZ3zcV+flgUTVhQZ92D59h 9c4DVy3Mxj4FPONri61DML5IDTguIEHVcEPEbhZwtAU76WnFWlbvZC1+fozDUlwl BiZnPbMo++0eUA4W1zerBuEDg0EXx1jRYIyG4CnhKm6vD+8pmrjR8EMKY3ZvQflM pgVc0GxYzYVwCx6lIx7/036SFXa4BdelEKDCIQnBbeL/NbDxgayGpWX8aSRbjkyQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrgeeggdduuddvucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesthdtre dttddtvdenucfhrhhomhepvehonhhsuhhsuceotghonhhsuhhssehfthhmlhdrnhgvtheq necukfhppeehrddukedrvdefiedrudehvdenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurf grrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegtohhnshhushesfhhtmhhlrdhnvght X-ME-Proxy: Received: from redacted (unknown [5.18.236.152]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4A2693065C6D; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 03:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 10:04:48 +0300 From: Consus To: David Demelier Cc: ~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Subject: Re: mailing lists, processes, modernization Message-ID: <20200421070448.GB13172@redacted> References: <20200419090413.GA4104@kiwi.home> <20200420191759.hsmoblodw7doewgd@wolfsden.cz> <3946584.sxVZWMqJoq@localhost> <2af23d66-1a00-85be-6d6d-a4b24c39192c@c3f.net> <20200420211647.GA13172@redacted> <20200421065003.GA14407@vanille.my.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200421065003.GA14407@vanille.my.domain> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 08:51:37AM +0200, David Demelier wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:16:47AM +0300, Consus wrote: > > What makes the situation even more complicated is that by default all > > mail is coming to your inbox. And there is no standard protocol across > > mail clients > > Yes, there is one it's called Sieve [0]. I personally use sieve-connect > to edit my rules from command line. By "standard" I don't mean that there is an RFC, I mean that there is a well-known and accepted by most implementations way to do things. And Sieve is no such thing. GMail does not support it, my mobile email client does not support it. Stock Google Mail client does not support it. Even mutt does not support it :)