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From: Sagar Acharya <sagaracharya@whitelist.co.in>
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Subject: Re: Preferred firewall
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In my view, due to Maya (Illusion, better known as AI), it is impossible to=
 classify bad packets from good ones=2E Text Maya is already solved and Alp=
ine should add good packages for Maya, like torch7 and cutorch=2E

LLMs program so well that programming LLMs like Qwen, specialized for a ce=
rtain language are very important=2E

We at Whitelist Tech, therefore say, whitelisting is the future, i=2Ee=2E =
, whitelist certain IPs, using nftables=2E=20


On 3 =E0=A4=9C=E0=A4=A8=E0=A4=B5=E0=A4=B0=E0=A5=80 2026 7:02:30 am IST, "W=
=2E Michael Petullo" <mike@flyn=2Eorg> wrote:
>I maintain an application on Alpine, and I have become a little confused
>about the distribution's preferred firewall stack=2E Until now, I have
>used awall=2E Recently, I found that my approach had to change slightly,
>because Alpine 3=2E23 does not by default provide the ip_tables module:
>
># modprobe ip_tables
>modprobe: FATAL: Module ip_tables not found in directory /lib/modules/6=
=2E18=2E2-0-virt
>
>Awall still seems to work due to the presence of x_tables, but this led
>me to do some research that left me uncertain=2E Here are the questions I
>am left with after reading several pieces of documentation:
>
>It seems x_tables is old (e=2Eg=2E, https://lwn=2Enet/Articles/155118/)=
=2E Did
>something change recently in Alpine to remove ip_tables (the kernel
>module)?
>
>Is it true that awall is tied to iptables (the utility)?
>
>Does this mean that awall does not make use of nftables (the kernel
>module)?
>
>Which is preferred, awall or nftables?
>
>Alpine's documentation still instructs to modprobe ip_tables
>(https://wiki=2Ealpinelinux=2Eorg/wiki/How-To_Alpine_Wall)=2E Is this
>now incorrect?
>
>I am presently building Alpine installs using
>https://dl-cdn=2Ealpinelinux=2Eorg/alpine/v3=2E23/releases/x86_64/alpine-=
virt-3=2E23=2E0-x86_64=2Eiso=2E
>

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Thanking you
Sagar Acharya
https://whitelist=2Eco=2Ein