X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@mail.alpinelinux.org Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.113]) by mail.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55891DC012C for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.182] by nm19.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2012 14:04:32 -0000 Received: from [77.238.184.70] by tm13.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2012 14:04:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2012 14:04:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1334412272; bh=Z6NCB2GuickDlQ87DHr9fD1wHSYufaDfa9NGDwPgNLU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zp6BxQz5qg2YGlFL0qDK5kEKFYakzd/QVT8qCfYxS6nOanbN1tmGzP4ZYiJkHZo8fZ7m77fGksq5dCL0Byb7E0jOy7vObJ30fa+Mm4EV14UHXQTkHV+UE5LX4/L9/0ptnUGg9OVsAY6Zq/4F8McfboAVPNmiwxaWXj4araNMoW4= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 346105.2723.bm@smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Message-ID: <346105.2723.bm@smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: FueStj0VM1kxCYcLBcDf5gVzmdvrTy2MDdca5FMPlh6rPqM cL8EYicUq43Si6eD.mEJ46HdngpShgZmy5LWyx2k_wwFFzC.vrWEJ4oXnTx5 7XsFnQKXC89hYKSDRQoRFjLaPJDx63sWz737Yz4CRHhumQiDV9vPiz_O1jqy ha7t.cWZGXz_XkpWJYMUYmC_TjD6DKzbTrkJQFH_jpbczO6tm_mJaC10OSCh y3GXpbw3RzQa2Z8DTeZw.5HCduN_H9mdmM8BizIZmVJUQ_MpJ.4CACg255ew He_nP_1mqSHyruHRcVblNyr2lUEoGDl05mOw.AZtFFhiwxpVYP2sqd8N4qRK Fb8Cpz2w.qLpMoagnTzqSb74HwuFEmsjy.s_fKKLI38ozWtQ_T9zhBHJkIS0 - X-Yahoo-SMTP: UxXxlhuswBC4wbdewolpwSmT1iJVzQ-- Received: from sprat (ma1l1ists@92.27.156.6 with login) by smtp139.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2012 14:04:32 +0000 GMT Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:05:00 +0100 From: Kevin Chadwick To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] [announce] Sonnet GNU/Linux (somewhat derivative of Alpine) In-Reply-To: References: <965117.94628.bm@smtp142.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: KeVs Mailer X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:47:32 +0000 William Pitcock wrote: > Yes -- we plan on retaining support for grsecurity/pax kernels, but > they will kind of be considered for use by people who know the > implications of their kernel choice. Meaning that they won't be > necessarily a configuration that is recommended for use by most users > as PAX can introduce problems for desktop users. > > I still feel that OpenBSD-style W^X is sufficient though, and could > probably be upstreamed fairly easily. Your singing to me now :-). That's fair enough, I think a lot of the parts of grsecurity/PAX could happily live upstream too, but I think anyone would have a job and a half getting them in. OpenBSD is my favourite OS. Unfortunately as I don't maintain a huge number of machines, keeping the OpenBSD desktops updated wasn't really the best use of my time and the lag (though small) for updates to firefox and firefox using it's own malloc etc., kinda sealed the deal for me. I've heard some say arch linux is the new contender beating slackware as the linux with the most bsdisms. Maybe there's now one more contender for that spot? Of course with linux being the kernel, that doesn't make any sense as a sentence ;-). --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---