X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Received: from web130103.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web130103.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.238.130]) by lists.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 819221EBFD2 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2011 12:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 85316 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Apr 2011 12:38:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1302266304; bh=9rXkJzVR8W3SNtPKybR3A3yAmb8WA4REkY0Njv0aD/E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=12FCMzEteiXH8qwKgMv13HybTOf66h6KSDfEtD/5w9hc7KsrnOVlRCZY4qzAbPesr0moxn+NtUL8pl7vYFAP3Ty4sz7rbnu91PjElIbXXnNFHViFbruDOnVDBxUDsBkrN4C9G6eFh+2rOApBvz2SvUX/16AI+1oRjzsuf2o0PnU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FbWK762ZqORezwUJLxmYiDlXyaR1p+vALxHCVwT/1NA/V919i8y8TaTEzQeDwWmu9C3kXxABVAK0EzWm5sg0mYiB5IBingYNtZ+JDDcM8K+7UmHAUBIfygxtEnrnLe/ygPODJwpuJOfvNm6IyhMaqsW3aUAEdU4LNRRLzQEpeLk=; Message-ID: <390487.78110.qm@web130103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: U00c95cVM1n5OnPhgEFFpYRfUmBXiINPYO9hnhefbaDr3SO Z7Pqd5A_77ErytgQWhFlsuxIfM1mEm8gxJSZQu7NG.cwzCfHtunqWxR4Dw0e .b.HNTrB580NWF1VhMHOr2U..lZror7jwn8khVZPi6XqD3FwMCTU0NH7_jnu tjHZ_CgXiT6vnHVRnR8KPRVr0eXKltWrf2L9rcWp15u11kd47u.PH8N4l.Rq cJzYk2f97aiAPI2r2C2ztHJ1O89pZPJugcMXHNehmPsRBBFpmX3lUdJWjgTs No_ZoaMj8rlY9HAYOwHeS96tIjpXWW2snmx0UrW2pLo7OTWNK69GUPzNL2YO Mp1AzC9KJYVBY0Q97kiyDqHAXnakQJ6mUuhvWywVmS5vJUS1vK3EgIqs- Received: from [208.74.141.113] by web130103.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 05:38:24 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <20110407213938.57301ae5@alpinelinux.org> <105535.65649.qm@web130107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110408080437.559e3cb9@ncopa-desktop.nor.wtbts.net> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 05:38:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Trask Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] new edge snapshot and upcoming feature freeze To: Natanael Copa Cc: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org In-Reply-To: <20110408080437.559e3cb9@ncopa-desktop.nor.wtbts.net> X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Needed? Maybe not. But I did think it was a nice simple sollution. LVM adds= an =0Aextra layer of complication. However, I no longer use setup-disk in = any of my =0Aapplications, and have moved back to run-from-RAM and lbu. So,= as usual, I will =0Atrust your judgement.=0A=0ATed=0A=0A----- Original Mes= sage ----=0AFrom: Natanael Copa =0ATo: Ted Trask =0ACc: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org=0ASent: Fri, Apr= il 8, 2011 2:04:37 AM=0ASubject: Re: [alpine-devel] new edge snapshot and u= pcoming feature freeze=0A=0AOn Thu, 7 Apr 2011 13:45:06 -0700 (PDT)=0ATed T= rask wrote:=0A=0A> Will use of LVM be required? Will i= t be possible to get the exact=0A> same install that you used to get from '= setup-disk -r'?=0A=0AIs there a need for that? I was thinking of it, but fr= om script=0Aprogramming perspective, its so much more complicated to work w= ith=0Apartitions than LVM. You can also resize/re-organize the partitions= =0Alater.=0A=0AI could ofcourse keep the current code (which is one big bul= k) in there=0Abut it would be nice to =0A=0AThe current plan is that 'setup= -disk -r' and selecting 'root' will=0Acreate 2 partitions, 1 boot, 1 for lv= m and store the root and swap (if=0Aany) on lvm.=0A=0AI wonder if we should= have a simplified disk layout too, no LVM, no=0Aswap, no /boot, just /. Th= is could be useful for ssd setups.=0A=0AOh, btw, what I think would be cool= would be if you could run=0Asetup-disk with 2 or more disks and it would a= utomatically do the raid=0Amagic for you. For example: setup-disk /dev/sdb = /dev/sdc=0A=0A> =0A> Ted=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> ----- Original Message ----=0A>= From: Natanael Copa =0A> To: alpine-devel@lists.alp= inelinux.org=0A> Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 3:39:38 PM=0A> Subject: [alpine-d= evel] new edge snapshot and upcoming feature freeze=0A> =0A> Hi,=0A> =0A> I= have tagged a new edge snapshot, 110407. This includes apk-tools-2.1=0A> s= o things should works as normal when setting up new boxes, without=0A> any = apk-tools upgrade adventures.=0A> =0A> This snapshot also has a new version= of setup-disk with support for=0A> data-only disk setups. You first get as= ked if you want use disk at=0A> all, and if so, which disk. Then you get as= ked how you would like to=0A> use it and you basically have 2 options:=0A> = * data-only (hybrid) install=0A> * traditional native disk install=0A> =0A>= data-only disk will set up the disk with swap and one big /var using=0A> L= VM. You can manually set swap size with -s option or disable it swap=0A> by= setting the size to 0. If you run setup-disk with -r option, it=0A> will c= reate a raid1 device under LVM with a single disk so you later=0A> can appe= nd a disk for redundancy.=0A> =0A> Native disk install might have some issu= es at the moment and I intend=0A> to rewrite it to also use LVM.=0A> =0A> s= etup-disk now uses ext4 by default.=0A> =0A> Please test it and give feedba= ck.=0A> =0A> I think we will enter feature freeze mode tomorrow. From next = week we=0A> will focus on bug fixing and setting up a 2.2-stable build box.= If=0A> there still are any packages in testing that you need for 2.2 stabl= e,=0A> well, too bad...=0A> =0A> -nc=0A> =0A> =0A> ---=0A> Unsubscribe:=A0 = alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org=0A> Help:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 alp= ine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org=0A> ---=0A=0A=0A=0A---=0AUnsubscribe:= =A0 alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org=0AHelp:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 a= lpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org=0A--- --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---