Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 15:06:21 -0600 (MDT)
From: Ariadne Conill <ariadne@dereferenced.org>
To: Led <ledest@gmail.com>
cc: ~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org
Subject: Re: [3.15] System change proposal: Use netbsd-curses instead of GNU
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Hello,

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, Led wrote:

>> This proposal is largely centered around normalizing our package set with
>> other musl distributions, such as Sabotage and Adelie, which already ship
>> netbsd-curses in favor of GNU ncurses.
>
>
> Why are you trying to harm Alpine?

The proposal outlines the benefits and risks to Alpine.  By using a better 
maintained ncurses implementation that is also simpler and smaller, this 
proposal is in line with the fundamental design values of the project: 
Small, Simple and Secure.  Or in other words, Alpine is improved by this 
proposal.

> Because you hate GNU? Why do you hate GNU?

These are bad faith arguments.  My desire is to ensure Alpine ships the 
best possible implementations that are aligned with our design values. 
Unfortunately, those implementations are increasingly not GNU ones, 
because of the way the GNU project approaches portability and other 
concerns.

If you have technical evidence to demonstrate that GNU ncurses is superior 
to the NetBSD implementation for Alpine, then please feel free to submit 
those arguments, but bad faith arguments are unhelpful and unwelcome.

Ariadne