X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@mail.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-in-17.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADDF8DC00DC for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 20:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.27]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922C7CC268; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:51:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-in-15.arcor-online.net (mail-in-15.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.55]) by mail-in-10-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9043628B6A2; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:51:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.16.209] (85-127-78-78.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at [85.127.78.78]) (Authenticated sender: panthera.tigris@arcor.de) by mail-in-15.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 75C131AB53B; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:51:22 +0100 (CET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-15.arcor-online.net 75C131AB53B DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1352494283; bh=TKDGLMiXPLRtJjjqphtUxq6Icbo+ZqQrZUeLGMnR+lk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=qQwRJntnWAKCBqj1IeVsLcZTkhX49YUAdd0puqA6/vuKuE8wHUpJoHFoPng1YoSAb wRhp8gm7inh0VzkeVH1sq/KbEasoSTu2101weY12zVGLHsvO3iRBwktamHO7bkePIb +qmuYI8I1g8izT7aE1wNSRwms0GTacR2slAMbBbw= Message-ID: <509D6CC9.3000704@arcor.de> Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 21:51:21 +0100 From: Der Tiger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121029 Thunderbird/16.0.2 X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jeremy@thomersonfamily.com CC: Alpine-devel Subject: [alpine-devel] Alpine on Alix (was: Minimal ram requirements?) References: <20121109092802.GA2347@vaio.jimpryor.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020003010006010806020906" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020003010006010806020906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jeremy, Some time ago, I tried to get Alpine running on an Alix 2C3 system, which is nearly identical to the 2D3, but the kernel (I suppose 2.6) was crashing constantly. Most crashes occurred when I started larger applications like Asterisk. BIOS version was 0.99h, the latest version available, and I tested with MFGPT workaround enabled and disabled. May I ask which kernel you are using? Does Alpine require certain kernel configuration parameters to run stable on Alix boards? I am quite sure my Alix board is _not_ defective, because there have bin no issues running Voyage Linux and fli4l. Due to the problems mentioned, the Alix was replaced by a considerably more powerful Intel DN2800MT, but I would like to reactivate the Alix board for supplementary purposes. Thanks and Kind Regards, Tiger Am 2012-11-09 19:55, schrieb Jeremy Thomerson: > 512MB would definitely be plenty. My home router has Alpine and is > running a host of networking things, including: several separate VLANs > / subnets, firewall, OpenVPN server, IPSec / GRE / Racoon / OpenNHRP > mesh network, dnsmasq for internal DNS, and hostapd to act as a > wireless access point. > > That's running on this an Alix 2D3 [1] (500MHz AMD Geode, 256MB RAM). > Alpine on CF card, run from RAM setup. I'm typically using less than > 50% of memory (so I guess you could theoretically squeeze all that > onto 128MB RAM). > > [1] - http://store.netgate.com/ALIX2D3-P43C69.aspx > > rt01 [~]# uname -a > Linux rt01 3.3.4-grsec #1-Alpine SMP Sat Apr 28 13:19:55 UTC 2012 i586 > Linux > rt01 [~]# free > total used free shared buffers > Mem: 254920 110972 143948 0 1708 > -/+ buffers: 109264 145656 > Swap: 0 0 0 > > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Dubiousjim > > wrote: > > Does anyone know what are minimal ram requirements for doing something > useful with Alpine? I don't mean absolutely bare minimum to run, but > something like a minimum recommended amount? I ask because I was > adding > Alpine to some wikis listing lightweight or run-from-ram distros, and > some of these enumerate what the distros claim their ram > requirements to > be. (Such as > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions_that_run_from_RAM.) > > But I couldn't find any discussion of this anywhere for Alpine. If I > boot from an ISO (on a USB stick) and don't do anything further, about > 47 or 59 MB of RAM are in use. But I'd be surprised if it were > possible > to usefully use Alpine on a machine with only 64 MB of ram. I > expect 512 > MB of ram is plenty. In between??? I don't know. Does anyone have > relevant experience? > > -- > Dubiousjim > dubiousjim@gmail.com > > > --- > Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org > > Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org > > --- > > --------------020003010006010806020906 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jeremy,

Some time ago, I tried to get Alpine running on an Alix 2C3 system, which is nearly identical to the 2D3, but the kernel (I suppose 2.6) was crashing constantly. Most crashes occurred when I started larger applications like Asterisk. BIOS version was 0.99h, the latest version available, and I tested with MFGPT workaround enabled and disabled.

May I ask which kernel you are using? Does Alpine require certain kernel configuration parameters to run stable on Alix boards?

I am quite sure my Alix board is _not_ defective, because there have bin no issues running Voyage Linux and fli4l. Due to the problems mentioned, the Alix was replaced by a considerably more powerful Intel DN2800MT, but I would like to reactivate the Alix board for supplementary purposes.

Thanks and Kind Regards, Tiger

Am 2012-11-09 19:55, schrieb Jeremy Thomerson:
512MB would definitely be plenty.  My home router has Alpine and is running a host of networking things, including: several separate VLANs / subnets, firewall, OpenVPN server, IPSec / GRE / Racoon / OpenNHRP mesh network, dnsmasq for internal DNS, and hostapd to act as a wireless access point.

That's running on this an Alix 2D3 [1] (500MHz AMD Geode, 256MB RAM).  Alpine on CF card, run from RAM setup.  I'm typically using less than 50% of memory (so I guess you could theoretically squeeze all that onto 128MB RAM).


rt01 [~]# uname -a
Linux rt01 3.3.4-grsec #1-Alpine SMP Sat Apr 28 13:19:55 UTC 2012 i586 Linux
rt01 [~]# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:        254920       110972       143948            0         1708
-/+ buffers:             109264       145656
Swap:            0            0            0


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Dubiousjim <lists+alpine-devel@jimpryor.net> wrote:
Does anyone know what are minimal ram requirements for doing something
useful with Alpine? I don't mean absolutely bare minimum to run, but
something like a minimum recommended amount? I ask because I was adding
Alpine to some wikis listing lightweight or run-from-ram distros, and
some of these enumerate what the distros claim their ram requirements to
be. (Such as
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions_that_run_from_RAM.)

But I couldn't find any discussion of this anywhere for Alpine. If I
boot from an ISO (on a USB stick) and don't do anything further, about
47 or 59 MB of RAM are in use. But I'd be surprised if it were possible
to usefully use Alpine on a machine with only 64 MB of ram. I expect 512
MB of ram is plenty. In between??? I don't know. Does anyone have
relevant experience?

--
Dubiousjim
dubiousjim@gmail.com


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