X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Received: from karif.server-speed.net (karif.server-speed.net [78.46.56.141]) by lists.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27EB5C3555 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:15:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from karif.server-speed.net (karif.server-speed.net [127.0.0.1]) by karif.server-speed.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B21D143F51 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:15:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on karif.server-speed.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Virus: No X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-100, BAYES_00=-1.9 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from [192.168.1.163] (static-dwaszesc-jedenjeden1.echostar.pl [109.232.26.111]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: barthalion) by karif.server-speed.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57C52143F50 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:15:18 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: karif.server-speed.net; dkim=none Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] Python 3 in Alpine 3.5 To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org References: <20160603121228.5d26f586@ncopa-desktop.alpinelinux.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Bart=c5=82omiej_Piotrowski?= X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <5d25e0be-609f-7fe6-39b8-a8da17a23d1e@bpiotrowski.pl> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 19:15:12 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160603121228.5d26f586@ncopa-desktop.alpinelinux.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C3AV8lI6B5DG6HsMbtJ64jFdB20iFxeLP" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --C3AV8lI6B5DG6HsMbtJ64jFdB20iFxeLP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="sMIFUNGigC92O6jGQsTloN6l5wOq6DMC7" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Bart=c5=82omiej_Piotrowski?= To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Message-ID: <5d25e0be-609f-7fe6-39b8-a8da17a23d1e@bpiotrowski.pl> Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] Python 3 in Alpine 3.5 References: <20160603121228.5d26f586@ncopa-desktop.alpinelinux.org> In-Reply-To: <20160603121228.5d26f586@ncopa-desktop.alpinelinux.org> --sMIFUNGigC92O6jGQsTloN6l5wOq6DMC7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-06-03 12:12, Natanael Copa wrote: > The difference between python and ruby module packages is that python > are much easier to package an maintain. Upgrading python packages is > fast too, so I actually don't mind keeping then. It's easier because Python modules rarely enforce dependencies versions on runtime. It doesn't mean we don't have possible issues now, but I generally agree that it is not so bad. > I suppose the biggest job is to figure out what to keep and what to > remove. I suspect there will be complains as soon as we start remove > python packages. There were very few complains when we removed ruby, I > suspect that nobody used them (because they were likely broken). There are some packages that are surely very popular in the community or as a dependency. Setuptools, packaging, requests, Flask, Django, urllib3, pip, six, jinja, yaml, cffi, unit tests libraries, Pillow, Sphinx, to name a few=E2=80=A6 It sounds better to me to start from "scra= tch" basing on requests from users than carefully check each of 576 py-* packages we have now. Bart=C5=82omiej --sMIFUNGigC92O6jGQsTloN6l5wOq6DMC7-- --C3AV8lI6B5DG6HsMbtJ64jFdB20iFxeLP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXVa+kAAoJELvkN3FIcyip8ScH/0a2ZI48gZirglOQF2JebWxx DRzXpUddZAL223kQxf/00wE3tUJKfmiBuzvD5FmxxD3Q6Hm+0QA/PQinXFWkj1ab ypwdKRSGlb1o6t8aDZ5ODxafeZrUqxibFA5xIOlrlbLWfRIsp9gZOsLOmGyvRZYL oDwim9PekKt/L1MHfm+IKGjHoQU8XZPeONKxfpKdGxMGYnFX7UAALHz8Ul4JTUMA RSFvGEpMLa0/oW9kDtH+2BpDpnVlgramopdKY5ISWYruCERI2c0KrTZiQ+jpkPXi lqA/BB6qOMCxP0/5FYOFkJpHDihfe3WyjUsiPM6+NT7ecV+hjKPS8lIIHR132KM= =Yfsw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C3AV8lI6B5DG6HsMbtJ64jFdB20iFxeLP-- --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---