Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 15:10:46 -0600 (CST)
From: Ariadne Conill <ariadne@dereferenced.org>
To: Nulo <catdevnull@riseup.net>
cc: Nico Schottelius <nico.schottelius@ungleich.ch>, 
    ~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org
Subject: Re: Experiencing harmful behavior in Alpine
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Hi,

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, Nulo wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 07:46:45PM +0100, Nico Schottelius wrote:
>> I've heard about it the first time on your URL and I think it is correct
>> behaviour to escalate if a conflict is not being resolved.
>>
>> However, I have to add that a public posting outside of this
>> mailinglist is probably not going to calm down the situation.
>
> I already tried to solve this on the IRC room many times and failed to
> do so; besides, I believe that having a publicly available archive of
> these kinds of things is important. I only posted this link publicly to
> this mailing list, and even then, it is public mailing list with public
> linkable archives.

I think the appropriate thing to do would have been to escalate to the 
Alpine Council, per the governance structure of the project.

For future reference, issues can be raised with the Council on the 
Council's issue tracker:

https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/council/-/issues/new

>
>> I can offer both you as well as mps the role of a mediator. Not in any
>> kind of official Alpine role, but as to resolve a conflict that is
>> related to work around Alpine.
>
> Thank you for the offer! However, as I said in the post, I already
> tried coming to an agreement with Ariadne as a mediator and failed to
> do so.

The Council has already opened a work item to do a CoC inquiry against 
mps:

https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/council/-/issues/11

I think it would be better to take this conversation to that ticket, 
so that everything is documented in one place, rather than have it on the 
Alpine lists.

Ariadne