Received: from mx1.mailbun.net (unknown [170.39.20.100]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA11E782BD6 for <~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 22:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nanabozho.lan (unknown [107.125.25.71]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ariadne@dereferenced.org) by mx1.mailbun.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DEFB2144C16; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 22:12:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=dereferenced.org; s=mailbun; t=1617747122; bh=yw/dyg9+6rted6KW6ZfJZsgsX7QxtkJJWTq6qHWSPzc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=JHQmrrBgd9JVLkxx+dGC+1KEk/vRMOPUAsrMatgiGyEaFp4ZdpPRkRAxPiWjZ7b0o 41h41gQcEaIacWy2R3MkdGjK76sdZPJ6vjPGcNRAETU3w/LgStNLkZfQF5zz02MjaT ELmTRdH59UlMnASaIduVOo/sWG1Z+3UOvnT0XX93tOksceYB5u7Cpow/Kh5dpHM3Rs BdG32rKUHLjWFEjv7QlBbCcM2gfhk7IMwUKo+Rrw2JwmHRT7gWQjjBuqhtWNWZvSbO 1VmxnxClwpZ2x6YuheXai65hiroxpBLBj1bIEYZT3JiUKd9xOX/LNR5bS37TjJFzkx STyJRT9I5FjZA== Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 16:12:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Ariadne Conill To: Led cc: ~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Subject: Re: [3.15] System change proposal: Use netbsd-curses instead of GNU ncurses In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6bb47924-f023-acf6-87e6-9ab7ff885db@dereferenced.org> References: <39816f25-5ecf-cbbb-b2c-bf5fdbb6c2fb@dereferenced.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi, On Wed, 7 Apr 2021, Led wrote: >> If you have technical evidence to demonstrate that GNU ncurses is superior >> to the NetBSD implementation for Alpine, then please feel free to submit >> those arguments, but bad faith arguments are unhelpful and unwelcome. > > https://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses-netbsd.html Many of the arguments there are poorly formulated, and Roy Marples has made rebuttals to the majority of them. At any rate, I would rather have a curses implementation that is cleanly written with asymptotic behavior than a highly-optimized curses implementation that is not cleanly written. Ariadne