X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Received: from mout.gmx.com (mout.gmx.com [74.208.4.201]) by lists.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212235C502F for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:55:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([178.8.77.185]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmxus001 [74.208.5.15]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LfSiF-1dyKPq1s7t-00p62x; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 00:54:51 +0200 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[alpine-devel]_Ad=c3=a9lie_on_Alpine=2c_two_months_la?= =?UTF-8?Q?ter?= To: Jean-Louis Fuchs , alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org References: <5975E0C0.1030008@adelielinux.org> <57A1A151-0352-40DA-BC91-52980CEE99C3@shiz.me> <59761031.6000605@adelielinux.org> <20170724195040.GA18090@vimes.1042.ch> <5301B93A-A3AA-4AD3-8191-EBA542A6C3D3@jirutka.cz> <20170724214609.GB18090@vimes.1042.ch> From: 7heo <7heo@mail.com> Message-ID: <74c1d09b-3a2c-5023-0036-a8f067ddae37@mail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 00:54:47 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170724214609.GB18090@vimes.1042.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:9TYk6bhJQYt+AOSKGRsdJ85DXe0JTXfvuPU10ndCE70ZRNPvPp/ RNVYTAP+JCF+iD7gYGpI5aQkRzoHy0bnAjFjqQ2pKeEQxix5stGscBCCD3g+vs/ADTjO1Dc 7Rui41QCGrYpqrGhlE2W4pdggXs7rZ+cD3mANNOTcoNEj94Ga6dA6eLiLWYTBzyy5iKd5+W 4pWf7W37esjc2erZehNsA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pPaSo0nLsAo=:vHWl1WKLv6L2jYkMqdJ2De ho1ZsQNUAAkQ1G+NSj3oyjBeRnDZsruDcwifaXsmszbiDcsBIhaR6jawHojFzH6mwXMsz0ZTc BIOvm8ICxWWBSCx7DehXNaOK8i/pByBFoor0+tTibnHY0R9xwN5MwmKfvyu8C6FlHRKR7yz6W iPn6mFTTlH8KO3Ai5NCrfq94pmgg1llW8ORXqmKfoSO5Bulc6grpyL/occ1h2IcN8D11Cz+cB /kr58hj+8OxIkIdMmu/mo3x2A9q0ZbdW2MlHFWKnMHw04LyX/+au4bjMdfoGHphUBksJt5j4E L4v7+PoCzTaeyDbCsJj6kQ86M4+r/tk0LBBo7AtK5zXmAFlz1S0kfnryfvQWRRbEiFjeRBmZ7 Tvs8VVNxIljkzXwu9fercZ+dty5uvUd+CHTLzJkt4waVFMjWdEQ2DVq2QgGGuclPDqwLOhBHJ chYfz+uUDEj8GI2LM18Wu8aqxkekiUPAd0N6epIyGtebA07omL2frd/2AEszQA/AlZbRb28Qu iCciSRwdbKbQIKFbzDN6z9n9Y78CaEZWWvRinZxywp8x8tofjFNek/kId5BkGsV/1DRoCUvY0 4mUhcxxDuShuwkNbhSyHQ3m9/7Ry9RsaXdcF8OIJnKwLQYzPfsJGOHjlI9HD6sfoVOPCI7PIj 2FDOeiCmgMhlsKJhd41H+tNmvSicTnFhTaSkXsI/xSmvkvwP2Ds1cc0CQWcJtndnSS50pl6QY tdXHnMyntSwbJcLDGKorfjPyA7md6FI5mpySUoMMnpW+VG0FZafc56NLCzdbX6FXmlahafGJe TbDWMsZ6WuY3qH5fsK4lOuzRevqFrKJZWOKJh8dl8WFLESYbEU= Perfect example of a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. I am orders of magnitude more active on github than on patchwork, because it really, really sucks. I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one. You can say whatever you want about the next version of patchwork, as it's not yet there, and therefore might very well suck less; but please do not infer that the not-so-active contributors wouldn't be more active under different (in the case of patchwork - less painful) conditions. HTH, 7heo. On 7/24/2017 11:46 PM, Jean-Louis Fuchs wrote: > Hi Jakub > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 10:46:44PM +0200, Jakub Jirutka wrote: > >> I strongly disagree that Patchwork is a great tool, at least the >> current version we have. > > In the end the process/tools has to fit the most active commiters, not > non-commiters like me. > > Since you are a power-user, know better then I. I am someone > who likes "git send-email" and mailinglists. For me patchwork is more > or less the tool that creates RESTAPI events from a patch-mailinglist > (not in alpine though). I also use GitLab a lot and like it a lot. > > I just wanted to say that a minimalistic approach (meaning simple > tools like git send-email + a mailinglist), is liked by a non-commiter > like me and I know commiters in other projects who like it too. > > But as I said, the process has to be optimized for the active > commiters. And I guess I am strange and a exception, since I prefer > TUIs to GUIs. > > Best, > Jean > --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---