Received: from smtp.ungleich.ch (mx.ungleich.ch [185.203.112.16]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1A50C782D6E for <~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Fri, 9 Apr 2021 07:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nb3.localdomain (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.ungleich.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A9A1FE3B; Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:29:43 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ungleich.ch; s=mail; t=1617953383; bh=QU/otjIMpAUdNZa7xdiN99qYzlAzJ1u1T9SIUeP687c=; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date:From; b=G09WmQOA+imksCfMvAMfpB5zF2ywfrgKdV4adHxgdjOPuTgv3z99wxD6LjVzrIChw 8eOyr9yz3I5eqgWD0YWa3BrwnHM6tGzuAI5ag48wIzNyRUqjGi8kQEOGYd0KwriCk8 yoCLgTuBp8h0vCyDNGuA1gWBn6hTa76EtCfvHTaSTUEFhRwh9Y6PVbu93Md240v+Qc eZWxXZKUT1y+XwJ6zXcCaDhhRHdKi82A6un2T17fkOEqGcU/bJY5aBKVxz9Twjo42R 0fe7Rbbg4gii5ysZYUYJXQJ0DCjUeiJM18OCXg0LoC3/fLznmiX3yImWXnQsUk4u+k Y96hkx0vhEl4w== Received: by nb3.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 56D3814C03F2; Fri, 9 Apr 2021 09:29:54 +0200 (CEST) References: <3824aef2-8af2-d33a-47e3-c7c66bd6615e@dereferenced.org> <8fa74683a260e4e9af058fa015e72d44574ad995.camel@zv.io> <28fd9b1a-878d-edc1-d5d0-899b3c5ffc9a@dereferenced.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.15; emacs 27.2 From: Nico Schottelius To: Ariadne Conill Cc: Zach van Rijn , ~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Subject: Re: [3.15] System change proposal: rename the Alpine 3.15 release to Alpine 15 In-reply-to: <28fd9b1a-878d-edc1-d5d0-899b3c5ffc9a@dereferenced.org> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2021 09:29:54 +0200 Message-ID: <87a6q73ogd.fsf@ungleich.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Good morning, Ariadne Conill writes: > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021, Zach van Rijn wrote: > >> On Thu, 2021-04-08 at 20:29 -0600, Ariadne Conill wrote: >>> ... >>> >>> An argument could have been made to jump to Alpine 4.x with >>> apk-tools 3, but we have decided to implement apk-tools 3 out >>> in a way that is non-disruptive. So that argument is now moot, >>> as well. >> >> I think it would make more sense to start at "4" without minor >> releases, instead of "15", for the following reasons: > > The last time we had this conversation, the conclusion was that simply > chopping the "3." part off made the most sense. I've to confess I'm with Zach here. Alpine 4 would be much more logical than doing a jump to Alpine 15. I personally think it will actually give the wrong impression as everyone will see it as a "marketing joke". If you want to present Alpine as a serious project, I suggest to bump (not jump) to 4.x, reasoning that there is a new apk-tools as a basis. Jumping discredits the seriousness of the project and I doubt this is smart long term decisions. Cheers, Nico -- Sustainable and modern Infrastructures by ungleich.ch