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From: Nico Schottelius <nico.schottelius@ungleich.ch>
To: Natanael Copa <ncopa@alpinelinux.org>
Cc: Led <ledest@gmail.com>, Ariadne Conill <ariadne@dereferenced.org>,
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Subject: Re: [3.15] System change proposal: rename the Alpine 3.15 release
 to Alpine 15
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 12:45:08 +0200
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Good morning,

I would like to strongly second Natanael's argument, because we are an
Open Source community that consists of and relies on many volunteers.

It is ok (and good) to be of a different opinion, but this should always
be expressed respectfully.

I'm looking back on 20 years of FOSS community work and I can say that
too long has the computer science / IT nerd / FOSS scene not taken this
seriously enough.

We shall disagree, we shall even fight about topics, but we must always
keep it respectful.

If we, who else should be a role model?

Aside from all this, Alpine is a real fun project and while I disagree
with Ariadne about the versioning proposal, the whole project is so much
fun - so let's keep it fun.

Cheers and greetings from a snowy (again!) Switzerland,

Nico

p.s.: I know I might sound old and I know it's an old term, but "the
tone makes the music".


Natanael Copa <ncopa@alpinelinux.org> writes:

> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 11:29:25 -0600 (MDT)
> Ariadne Conill <ariadne@dereferenced.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021, Led wrote:
>>
>> > +100.
>> >
>> > It looks like some are bored and they are trying to bury another
>> > project on a bunch of non-technical issues :(
>>
>> I maintain a large chunk of the base system, and have written numerous
>> utilities in the distribution from scratch, such as ifupdown-ng,
>> libucontext and pkgconf.
>>
>> Please stop harassing me.
>>
>> Ariadne
>
> FWIW,
>
> Alpine would not been what it is today without Ariadne and she
> absolutely deserves our respect.
>
> I don't think the version idea is stupid, and I don't think we should
> underestimate the value of marketing. I just don't think it is worth
> the cost, at least not now.
>
> We also want avoid that anyone feel harassed, regardless if that was
> the intention or not. Having a friendly community is a high priority
> goal.
>
> Thank you to everyone who express ideas, options or disagreements in a
> respectful way - regardless if the respect is deserved or not.
>
> -nc


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