X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-qt0-f181.google.com (mail-qt0-f181.google.com [209.85.216.181]) by lists.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6B85C4FD2 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 05:23:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mail-qt0-f181.google.com with SMTP id s6so32505948qtc.1 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:23:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dereferenced-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WzQoukTGoev8WYhhsrUqUbXa/qy3pM4PJAPPc5wL6OI=; b=OZ10BKkpR9/PuJl5apm92S6ASLlSv7bThljGZgyn8ELXPkBxwaUJPOv5EBwoJks34T AakypimoM++eoHnhSUUiO0SqaAwyLQGxphes7aYCzFWnzcOZ0t7Sa0SQ0N4qYEu3qDFG /zvEhvAFFnt5Q2QGy2O6WXV8k4bXwZVav50l4MJoEXahJvqQBBhkeGk66FaY9uJk1feP N7YftJTT3vv4LlXzFHXexrMHaHEdCK0oKIew8r/+NQmAuEhf0C4yPF3RxHAHCrVxq6mA Pyqa02y9wg9i2zqDfEfREVahw24S2HUJbugXyrswLNOHaqG0YX4h6DjgSGNpp2UFIMnO NTOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WzQoukTGoev8WYhhsrUqUbXa/qy3pM4PJAPPc5wL6OI=; b=hke+bAmmpqLMqb9ZxE+Y2tof80HFIx9NVamjl2WMQirknyMoGdbGjyJJkaE1pdd15I EGL9n+6TfuXeWfZ07gQWhUSgnpmCAyGVpaYLIRVB98pX2W7BB4LmfiKhcNz6a9h1RAXW rmXZUBtCHISBdiOXryStOTxAv31CbZXTPzhXer8UhUR37r82dCZtha3sNc+ABc95bfnb m6+Ium+sLsky6aSsRIJriO2cGWDwgrrJ2mMKR+diF7ZwgFEd6oOG0jrzxTrep46nw0bP wmqmbTRnKeYUc5pYTZYy8OEEI1fsSlO5RaXIinsR07QRE22cs/+TGIuvCfMqRZUwLl3n FETw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw111LxNiWYQTd15tcCwK6vq89iOhiparfP8tEunvdQbXq9bap5bgC QmYzG4afez/la+4J/h2oe5mLg3eE8MoB X-Received: by 10.200.2.65 with SMTP id o1mr25713484qtg.288.1500960214587; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:23:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.46.10 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:23:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2E417C1D-0F8D-4DBD-B283-5C5798D13D81@jirutka.cz> References: <5975E0C0.1030008@adelielinux.org> <57A1A151-0352-40DA-BC91-52980CEE99C3@shiz.me> <59761031.6000605@adelielinux.org> <20170724195040.GA18090@vimes.1042.ch> <5301B93A-A3AA-4AD3-8191-EBA542A6C3D3@jirutka.cz> <20170724214609.GB18090@vimes.1042.ch> <2E417C1D-0F8D-4DBD-B283-5C5798D13D81@jirutka.cz> From: William Pitcock Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 00:23:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5Balpine=2Ddevel=5D_Ad=C3=A9lie_on_Alpine=2C_two_months_lat?= =?UTF-8?Q?er?= To: Jakub Jirutka Cc: Jean-Louis Fuchs , Alpine-devel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Jakub Jirutka wrote: > Hi Jean, > >> I just wanted to say that a minimalistic approach (meaning simple tools = like git send-email + a mailinglist)=E2=80=A6 > > git send-email is indeed minimalistic, but mailing-list is really not. > >> And I guess I am strange and a exception, since I prefer TUIs to GUIs. > > Actually you=E2=80=99re not, many Alpinists prefer TUIs to GUIs, includin= g myself. What I wanted to say is that pull requests workflow is even more = suitable for TUIs than ML. You can use tools like https://hub.github.com/ += plain git or build your own tools suitable for your workflow, without need= to deal with bunch of unstructured information in emails. > >> =E2=80=A6is liked by a non-commiter like meand I know commiters in other= projects who like it too. =E2=80=A6the process has to be optimized for the= active commiters=E2=80=A6 > > Well, we need to optimize the process for maintainers, active contributor= s and even less active / new contributors like you. That=E2=80=99s one of t= he reasons why we still support both GitHub and Patchwork. > > I admit that I=E2=80=99d personally love to get rid of Patchwork, but 1st= others don=E2=80=99t allow me to do that, 2st no one, including myself, wa= nts to depend on third-party service as the only option. Currently we don= =E2=80=99t have any sane alternative (simple, lightweight yet powerful). We= know that the current process is not ideal, but there are too many issues = and too little time=E2=80=A6 I think our requirements are more specialised and I am wondering if it would be possible to build a simple application which merges the github PRs and patchwork patches in such a way that they can be tested. Once we have a solution to the CI problems, building such a site seems trivial to me. Debian has a similar website: mentors.debian.org, which does some checks on incoming contributions. Building something like that seems like something that would give us the best of all worlds, really. William --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---