X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-qk0-f173.google.com (mail-qk0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by lists.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6535C4230 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:49:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mail-qk0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 11so102864483qkl.3 for ; Sun, 29 Jan 2017 00:49:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dereferenced-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2niVKv4avP7Km+pyjOuNTxzHMH8wsZ4PR53C20KH3O4=; b=vJX7bz7O5EYuCepkwdL4AG+IOBj/JLxdw8N4Mhms5hjpRRJXiYFBy/G2mKDYuYm5F5 OjP/kx+XUYj36PI22U6c8zU4+kCR9gBE6uIQ16EpqXELeAg4Hr+NKXfDJm9dBHauLu27 a1W+gUgBWx3tgOsH/flbvezYikBpQcs8EKDadbQCuW0bXuU7P9FBMu03v+E3d3eHM/Ei mSQ1VyajC2by1PlMUnWslH4IMXM6abZITZduiOX0DYyjw3R5pduOHe8xzjngrLn2/1tL Z1pngT99xhSjThIkB49R+bex3seEA4xaeE/HP8yPatjmtiv7vTtRa0g8B461hqEDS+BS jmgw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2niVKv4avP7Km+pyjOuNTxzHMH8wsZ4PR53C20KH3O4=; b=Cz3ZjQE7A4szF+V0i570KH3Xkx8WEof2Kc2scGxp97XJ3KK20/TSWD0net8gAVyRzD t90Yz93V3GS1l16+bWeEjundQNHvzsascDm7anEsPUitcDqE3R2D2baJGU+OVUzLS0T7 sccfAe33u9PG7REHLE4aOqVeQRvikqSnClJ/LeAYbbkLapGPxbaIOJi+s/1250tgTCwH 6C5J3EMMHqscq61UIHuV2qtf7YSvgTVZfE1eBrMswBh3sd8vjjJxg9W5RjxN+p4Ylnz8 +75Yqv8MJ8qYWij7GA6BIjFuwsScYUAQw2YZ0kyYjhGU3pED04sDFgNGaOIxyeSKdyI8 ZaXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKFe/ojIT00xuJkdoVnIIb6tJgIQSWIqj2aQiHOJZ84rajqcNsGiB205F4Iou5PlPz59l/1ssHSVnZlzg== X-Received: by 10.55.123.5 with SMTP id w5mr18409664qkc.76.1485679799011; Sun, 29 Jan 2017 00:49:59 -0800 (PST) X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.1.17 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jan 2017 00:49:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5blaf1.okfi73.2tnq26-qmf@gmx.com> References: <20170126112655.44ad5c0e@vostro.util.wtbts.net> <4EDA0683-3991-44D0-882C-C34FBD4C38B2@jirutka.cz> <5blaf1.okfi73.2tnq26-qmf@gmx.com> From: William Pitcock Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 02:49:58 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] Proposal: testsuite support in APKBUILDs To: 7heo <7heo@mail.com> Cc: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org, timo.teras@iki.fi, Jakub Jirutka Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello, On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:59 AM, 7heo <7heo@mail.com> wrote: > I am really confused that you want to use a wrong vocab because GNU software already use it. Plus, it was my understanding that our tool's name isn't 'make' (since it's about identical terms). Has very little to do with GNU software, "make check" is #2 most frequently used in APKBUILD to invoke the testsuite behind "make test". "test" is a shell built-in and cannot be used, as others have said in the thread. The reason why "make check" is used so frequently, is because those packages have an automake-based build system. > I understand that for many people this discussion may seems like a waste of time, but using the correct vocabulary is an essential part of code-as-documentation. > > Going with check is not a huge inaccuracy I admit; but it will most likely effectively hinder the understanding of newcomers while lowering the learning curve for GNU people/users. I'm not really convinced that any new packager will be hindered any further by that considering that we can explain it in the "how to write an APKBUILD" guide. We should not make decisions based on people who do not read docs. > I can explain in a separate mail (or on IRC) why I think it is a bad enough idea to attract GNU contributors to alpine, to justify continuing this discussion; but I'll assume here that all alpine contributors share a similar view on the GNU code style. That's not very nice. We should, and do, welcome anyone who wants to contribute as long as their contributions are in line with the project overall. > So, does anyone agree? I agree that some care should be taken to ensure the tests verb is well known. This is why I chose "check" as an alternative to "testsuite" (since it is #2 behind "make test" which we can't use). The most preferable option would be "test" but it's not happening without a complete rewrite of abuild, which I don't see happening just to support this... William --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---