X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@mail.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D86F6DC076F for ; Wed, 1 May 2013 12:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id k5so1840990iea.32 for ; Wed, 01 May 2013 05:56:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UOz6C9umWXiPb7w7qasVEdb47PLX+fZQd+EVGl6ddTE=; b=nmn4NDpC3k7c/wqaQIpR5XEDi1e25+OBrlXwquUF44yk+H3ZCDS2kaW8r1tW8Z70jG PMSTjEzCA5W9UJWIDhQLZwRk2cs/apTjoF65e8nzzsb9HHM3A9MLNdkj6sQ7dUSINXlz /vO/rqPV7BofrtKk+nm0mT/0wJMzXP0EBYRPMkGAh5zzW2I9mnAdKUFXH26Ft3umBFGA b+mfpHOSvC8zp0LHYt88ovqHUObmyJqrtB7vRTDWtoLcFeNslSiHHouNcHwCv7Y8YJr4 FMfv5BEwZjGAA46zkEK4Mzel2G6ttOjlCa/6f95luXvdKMgqM7oPxHtY13V1LsLHNdOJ 8HfA== X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.6.35 with SMTP id x3mr6450015igx.58.1367413018106; Wed, 01 May 2013 05:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.20.45 with HTTP; Wed, 1 May 2013 05:56:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1367412191.8951.10.camel@df1844j> References: <20130501142905.2661cf85@ncopa-desktop.alpinelinux.org> <1367412191.8951.10.camel@df1844j> Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 14:56:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] alpine 2.6.0_rc1 is out - what do do with scst and vserver isos From: Carlo Landmeter To: Leonardo Arena Cc: alpine-devel Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd770f434a2d404dba7a7e0 --047d7bd770f434a2d404dba7a7e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Leonardo Arena wrote: > On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 14:29 +0200, Natanael Copa wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have uploaded the 2.6.0_rc1 isos. > > > > I wonder if we can kill the alpine-scst iso now? > > I think yes. We have iSCSI target support (TCM) in default kernel and > its related target-cli util since v2.5 iirc. I'm running a box with TCM > since few months without any problem. > > I've stopped maintaining it. We can just drop it in favor of TCM. > > > What do we do with alpine-vserver isos? > > > > Alternatives: > > 1) we kill it and tell users to use LXC > > 2) we ship it with an old kernel > > 2.1) downgrade to LTS 3.4.y > > 2.2) do nothing, keep the current, outdated 3.6.y > > 2.3) we try port vserver to 3.9 or same as grsec. > > > > Personally, I think I would prefer alternative 2.1. We still use > > vserver in production (build servers) and we don't have any good > > migration plan for vserver -> LXC. > > > > I also don't think there are many vserver users that wants the new > > fancy stuff in newer kernels, so i think reverting to an older 3.4.y > > kernel might work. Sticking to LTS kernels saves us for much work. > > > > What do you think? > > +1 > > - leo > > > > --- > Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org > Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org > --- > > Carlo --047d7bd770f434a2d404dba7a7e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Leonardo= Arena <rnalrd@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 14:29 +0200, Natanael Copa wrote: > Hi,
>
> I have uploaded the 2.6.0_rc1 isos.
>
> I wonder if we can kill the alpine-scst iso now?

I think yes. We have iSCSI target support (TCM) in default kernel and=
its related target-cli util since v2.5 iirc. I'm running a box with TCM=
since few months without any problem.

I've stopped maintaining = it. We can just drop it in favor of TCM.=A0

> What do we do with alpine-vserver isos?
>
> Alternatives:
> 1) we kill it and tell users to use LXC
> 2) we ship it with an old kernel
> =A0 2.1) downgrade to LTS 3.4.y
> =A0 2.2) do nothing, keep the current, outdated 3.6.y
> =A0 2.3) we try port vserver to 3.9 or same as grsec.
>
> Personally, I think I would prefer alternative 2.1. We still use
> vserver in production (build servers) and we don't have any good > migration plan for vserver -> LXC.
>
> I also don't think there are many vserver users that wants the new=
> fancy stuff in newer kernels, so i think reverting to an older 3.4.y > kernel might work. Sticking to LTS kernels saves us for much work.
>
> What do you think?

+1

- leo



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