X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@mail.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-vc0-f176.google.com (mail-vc0-f176.google.com [209.85.220.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE9CDDC00FA for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id lf12so258331vcb.21 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 04:53:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=bc02rDIF2ZSsz5gBL1JjUKQeLTHLnnEJhibPsknis/M=; b=vA0UtzYJIyZ71TIgQGvABBaqu47wSNydc46j6RRY7E4p/hlKk9Vo6flTFqUNFfu4QR FzXjX2Beikuw8x9Gws/n9PG5nsAjKV5VMsC8TmLHHJ21M8lWQGlHp4+bbFP4YQAzwpXX IfVHf7dyFOjhj+OhjI3DTV9hiGDRkJpn66Vh7ggmnxTMPRTQmyal8s/apjpUzNTvONY9 sfBwkm7TyzcYHCy16bigJhkxaE99eu1BH3lk6dLAxLd1C+LyKSNHfOV1wmHGInqHU5hP Y3kQ9IkKXx65Po+Op4tspGPbiVcekrJVi2TexY2ZcSpcC8+zgbo3lLr9865Do9GpGGIc MFRA== X-Received: by 10.220.199.5 with SMTP id eq5mr20996408vcb.16.1384865624078; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 04:53:44 -0800 (PST) X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.59.10.5 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 04:53:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20131119132736.0636fb6b@ncopa-desktop.alpinelinux.org> References: <528A40E8.2020803@port-zero.com> <20131119132736.0636fb6b@ncopa-desktop.alpinelinux.org> From: Sam Dodrill Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:53:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] alpine-iso: USBIMG vs isohybrid To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5db26a95c36b04eb87270d --047d7b5db26a95c36b04eb87270d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Unetbootin works fine, but I haven't tested it with an APKOVL, but I have no reason to suspect it wouldn't work. Sam Dodrill mailto:shadow.h511@gmail.com On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Natanael Copa wrote: > On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 17:31:36 +0100 > "Leslie P. Polzer | PORT ZERO" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > is there a specific reason for the USBIMG section in the > > Makefile? A simpler alternative would be running isohybrid > > on the built ISO image. > > > > Leslie > > > > Yes. The problem is that vfat does not support resize. We store apkvols > and often the apk cache on the USB stick so you normally want use the > available space on the USB. As i understand isohybrid, we can create an > additional fat partition but it will be fixed to the size of the > smallest supported usb. > > The reason we prefer FAT is that it makes it easy to copy apkovl to the > boot usb to and from Windows. > > Also, i don't think may actually boot the ISO so we just use it as a > container, like tar.gz, but the ISO format has some advantages: > - you can boot it directly in a virtual machine > - you can 'unzip' it with 7zip and similar tools > - you can burn it (for those who actually use cdrom) > > But I agree that it would be nice to make it simpler for users to > create bootable USB. I am open to ideas. > > -nc > > > --- > Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org > Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org > --- > > --047d7b5db26a95c36b04eb87270d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Unetbootin works fine, but I haven't tested it with an= APKOVL, but I have no reason to suspect it wouldn't work.

Sam Dodrill
mailto:shadow.h511@gmail.com

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Natan= ael Copa <ncopa@alpinelinux.org> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 17:31:36 +0100
"Leslie P. Polzer | PORT ZERO" <polzer@port-zero.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> is there a specific reason for the USBIMG section in the
> Makefile? A simpler alternative would be running isohybrid
> on the built ISO image.
>
> =C2=A0 Leslie
>

Yes. The problem is that vfat does not support resize. We store apkvo= ls
and often the apk cache on the USB stick so you normally want use the
available space on the USB. As i understand isohybrid, we can create an
additional fat partition but it will be fixed to the size of the
smallest supported usb.

The reason we prefer FAT is that it makes it easy to copy apkovl to the
boot usb to and from Windows.

Also, i don't think may actually boot the ISO so we just use it as a container, like tar.gz, but the ISO format has some advantages:
- you can boot it directly in a virtual machine
- you can 'unzip' it with 7zip and similar tools
- you can burn it (for those who actually use cdrom)

But I agree that it would be nice to make it simpler for users to
create bootable USB. I am open to ideas.

-nc


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