X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-lf1-f52.google.com (mail-lf1-f52.google.com [209.85.167.52]) by lists.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D0C5C5647 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 14:48:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: by mail-lf1-f52.google.com with SMTP id x207-v6so14244258lff.3 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 07:48:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=duniel-no.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jbPnpjKpC9BHDXhXoytED8E37BpJmj+rdcYOalYgtYE=; b=dIo6WI/hDt1J++InnjXyuSctMXuDmj+r6UtNgVHCyIqne60wZIeYaQl/Jngc7oI8JQ 4K21kwOj1X5CIanq10nsEw+PJ1uEbqP3kja3iqjhRCt5iTisZVrJLL6ZiWbxOr4H4iE2 GNePVtMw/TXjUuJoBmKvfb0S6P6vr+v3csTcafMvj5kvCS/t56Op5B+2TwREqP1DTr41 U7uAj8xKdJpWJROeJsT7QyIHLcKoZC4zIqB0grCNNo9Quo9+Xp8KRinbiw+YHxAohxLI GMkPdy0n0KNsWeqDdapCOFcbgV7TlhjrtGOFsK5o2FDSX85EIgOlhA1ms0Ki3SqI9Xz6 nSvQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jbPnpjKpC9BHDXhXoytED8E37BpJmj+rdcYOalYgtYE=; b=dmfrtyYNmKWqU4tXddmqcPVu8KPKv5LJXxfnCforlHqU3zMSZs3rYPIfya10q+pQc+ TuZdVHtocCPlOBoYS7Wfs/n5XkGhwb0GSfuTuDECMRV9TqNDd0dKu8hvxUVMwWmOaOUB cwvGuu1Q01yoyPLRoeVVZ7Ps4j7ZFyRc3vN9ZJnDdw8ryVVzGJ40dK+YGm2z08bjmkXs HXnznd7hxvfAHAgFg0kK+V8CScfL2Z9TB5uy2StJSbW2VblzX4NYfNOd02BdCM43Z6aP mpnHiwyGJmsr6MYGEPdZEQkJC/jnWFDu/yphEfWndhtXQgLPMhhGLVDYGTVej0SoZ716 f85g== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CWBaUBVtJf1sGQx8kdyYlGpFEkKuSX01rxPR34AE9lnMCbI5hM ny/nVr4cUiVZoLAaaJTN1bB1oSuxkaeR71oBmaCrmQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYQ0KmzpEBHZd7GI2+7zwXfWs4yUsJKR0108VmHwUlcAmTkcSXscZqiIZFcDi7R9INGZdKvkCg10Me+5HweHvc= X-Received: by 2002:a19:c143:: with SMTP id r64-v6mr3019531lff.59.1536418112341; Sat, 08 Sep 2018 07:48:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab3:76d3:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2018 07:48:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1535967427.2894146.1494851992.1C38456F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1536098423.3081610.1496826688.060747A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1536412790.2815508.1501150232.241916D8@webmail.messagingengine.com> From: Daniel Isaksen Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2018 16:48:11 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] Julia missing from alpine v3.8 To: ecsx Cc: "alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d01f1c05755d37ad" --000000000000d01f1c05755d37ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, You should be able to do package pinning and install older Julia from 3.7 on 3.8 if you really need/want it. ----- Sincerely / Med vennlig hilsen, Daniel Isaksen (https://duniel.no) On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 4:45 PM, ecsx wrote: > It's unfortunate but I don't know much about build systems either. I > couldn't help anyway. > > All I wanted was to use Julia like I did on Alpine v3.7. > I'm even considering going back from Alpine v3.8 to v3.7 because I need > Julia for an university course. > > But thanks for the help! > > > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original = Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 > On Saturday, 8 September 2018 10:19, Jean-Louis Fuchs > wrote: > > > Hi ecsx > > > > You're absolutely right, these things should be upstreamed and that is > also what keeps me from doing it. I don't know anything about julia. It i= s > too scary for me: > > > > - Their build-system is completely hand-written, so as a maintainer > you have to find out everything you know about standard build-systems aga= in > > - Then almost every patch for 0.6.2 fails with 1.0.0 and most not > because the issues are fixed > > - Too many tests fail > > > > Complicated packages are quite common, julia isn't alone. But it > requires a lot of dedication to get it working and then get fixes > upstreamed. > > > > You are very welcome to give it a try. I would help you to get > started with alpine development. We can talk on IRC. > > > > Best, > > Jean-Louis > > > > On Sat, 8 Sep 2018, at 12:38, ecsx wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Jean. > > > What's non-standard about it? > > > Could we propose a patch or at least report upstream? > > > Thank you. > > > All the best. > > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Origi= nal Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 > > > On Tuesday, 4 September 2018 19:00, Jean-Louis Fuchs > ganwell@fangorn.ch wrote: > > > > > > > Hi ecsx > > > > > > > > > It has a lot patches and seems rather fragile. I check if 1.0 les= s > > > > > fragile, but no promises. > > > > > > > > It seems they added even more non-standard procedures to their > build-system. One can waste a lot of time on this apk. Since I don't use > julia, I'm out. > > > > Best, > > > > Jean-Louis > > > > > > --- > Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org > Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org > --- > > --000000000000d01f1c05755d37ad Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

You should be able to do package pinni= ng and install older Julia from 3.7 on 3.8 if you really need/want it.

-----=
Sincerely / Med vennlig hilsen,
Daniel Isaksen <d@duniel.no> (https://duniel.no)
=

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 4:45 PM, ecsx <ecs= x@protonmail.com> wrote:
It= 's unfortunate but I don't know much about build systems either. I = couldn't help anyway.

All I wanted was to use Julia like I did on Alpine v3.7.
I'm even considering going back from Alpine v3.8 to v3.7 because I need= Julia for an university course.

But thanks for the help!



=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90
On Saturday, 8 September 2018 10:19, Jean-Louis Fuchs <= ganwell@fangorn.ch> wrote:

> Hi ecsx
>
> You're absolutely right, these things shou= ld be upstreamed and that is also what keeps me from doing it. I don't = know anything about julia. It is too scary for me:
>
> -=C2=A0 =C2=A0Their build-system is completely hand-written, so= as a maintainer you have to find out everything you know about standard bu= ild-systems again
> -=C2=A0 =C2=A0Then almost every patch for 0.6.2 fails with 1.0.0 and m= ost not because the issues are fixed
> -=C2=A0 =C2=A0Too many tests fail
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Complicated packages are quite common, julia isn= 9;t alone. But it requires a lot of dedication to get it working and then g= et fixes upstreamed.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0You are very welcome to give it a try. I would help= you to get started with alpine development. We can talk on IRC.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Best,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jean-Louis
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sat, 8 Sep 2018, at 12:38, ecsx wrote:
>
>
> > Hi Jean.
> > What's non-standard about it?
> > Could we propose a patch or at least report upstream?
> > Thank you.
> > All the best.
> > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 O= riginal Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2= =80=90
> > On Tuesday, 4 September 2018 19:00, Jean-Louis Fuchs ganwell@fangorn.ch wrote:
> >
> > > Hi ecsx
> > >
> > > > It has a lot patches and seems rather fragile. I check = if 1.0 less
> > > > fragile, but no promises.
> > >
> > > It seems they added even more non-standard procedures to the= ir build-system. One can waste a lot of time on this apk. Since I don't= use julia, I'm out.
> > > Best,
> > > Jean-Louis
> >


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