X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@mail.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A9BB1814FD1 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 08:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so6947428iad.13 for ; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 01:08:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZdI8M6ioh+9NbmdWDA9nmM6R26YuJ+yPIalfNGtQIsM=; b=DoCMj7ACu5AGKMZEGFCoOKZBe1tPWQ4QfjgrUcJIRv8IAB0qwL8kbGrh5E9p1F3GlM /d+7OQEYWOUa/g7e8RO44361Yea1YGi9V3zQtL2d/utaoI9o4Zz1BjGnHocqpaulpgS+ QA37XF5S2pumYfdyAXRZ9na+y/MOhWZFTAUyA= X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.65.210 with SMTP id k18mr7424691ibi.68.1317629323181; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 01:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.30.194 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Oct 2011 01:08:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111003032414.GA27587@waltdnes.org> References: <20111003032414.GA27587@waltdnes.org> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 10:08:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] Can Alpine be built with glibc and mdev? From: Florian Heigl To: Walter Dnes Cc: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, tell the guy my greetings. I always wondered why the "legacy" commercial unixes do multithreaded backgrounded device init, and (some!) Linux devs actually think it's a smart thing to fork a few hundred or thousand shell scripts to identify system hardware. 2011/10/3 Walter Dnes : > =A0No, I'm not proposing a fork of Alpine. =A0There are a bunch of unhapp= y > people on the Gentoo-Users list, over the fact that the lead developer > for udev wants to put a whole bunch of userspace stuff into the boot > process, which forces either merging /usr into the / physical volume, or > else booting with initramfs, which is more stuff to go wrong, and very > painful to debug when it does go wrong. =A0The udev lead developer is a > Redhat employee. =A0The attitude is summarized very well at... > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken?h= ighlight=3D%28%5C/usr%29 > where the poster says, and I quote... > >> On my fresh Fedora 15 install that's 23 obvious cases. > > =A0Just because he uses big bloated Redhat doesn't mean everybody else > wants to. As to Gentoo, maybe you just need someone else for the job, instead of a new distro. --=20 the purpose of libvirt is to provide an abstraction layer hiding all xen features added since 2006 until they were finally understood and copied by the kvm devs. --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---