Received: from mail-ej1-f45.google.com (mail-ej1-f45.google.com [209.85.218.45]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 871037811A2 for <~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 17:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ej1-f45.google.com with SMTP id sb34so6567321ejc.11 for <~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 10:06:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ns0qHYGZFgMghv4UgEDLiySWy4zpDkXEuTPdl7DmNlk=; b=A9E73+XkBhLe0DcNgFBFpd0+E6t0ZHcZvgwNvZgnwxelXwDRX2b/A3PIIiDwCzLCaE rGnms+Le9mWULTetcKhl5vAs14XC8gNQIpcg12ZiT8jbj0JkUqSvnxSA/9GcW404jaje qGybDSnFm3jAFIqko1/cXwad0sRyfIr8RjP7s6JMjSraDhFyVEArAVdHib60dvZv2EEW fSbHWV8O9PqkCrZjLmeXoQpY8o3bixDNydgjD+xCyb9WCNVhNtBQkux1egurJW9gbjxx bbOgnlb8cpnCd7m4mVF+2Gf8MQafzU6xZEcnXF1snLQvCaCKTnxqcXK8FqgvQxI/fe/c g4Tw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ns0qHYGZFgMghv4UgEDLiySWy4zpDkXEuTPdl7DmNlk=; b=ZkV93Pqb28VQF8AUwjMcsz2a++2+GVUutG2mkBQsVYHydLFoKrw7O1pLgHyhAhEx/y rdc9rJS9wT39+m05KxzWBeE24MMlU0Y6V4nkPIiigsQZpjaLFjhnILKcauNGGOdJrFUP TiSYg+DCwGPLi8E+Ta/4C01isZapS7KXC2aPWdp5jCm7lgphI6cjilytXgC6So78mJ7T JZzpxXf3PcZn36mmCW3OYtsYsO/JnE8oTSJs9Ch1J9nltsfboa+vngKxkzbgC85q+XRZ n7s3JqMY82lLor49Aa9j5J2rnao5Ov772/4T2117+ikbsZnXLXMToAQ8lpga+PjjkNgf 9bxw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora+/uJobhbB0e4K4xZVuvZLpYZh/duIJkUjf3h+n0wU2aK+xAM6H VpuEDKuZERHXhQKrcwjUGwJku/71szasxsJx9eA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1tTvIC0cAYNU0NckjbhNw4zPAoYeMxtaE6HkCi3iiW81rPjWu25IdsNWO7tuOrd0/aIVs0HByqj3sMc71bgUno= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:3d8a:b0:70e:6b1:b004 with SMTP id he10-20020a1709073d8a00b0070e06b1b004mr4161755ejc.61.1655917582042; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 10:06:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220621095653.71773d59@ncopa-desktop.lan> <20220621114559.4d38d98e@ncopa-desktop.lan> In-Reply-To: From: Tomas Kolda Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 19:06:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Native Alpine GLibc support (NEW) To: alice Cc: Laurent Bercot , ~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > you don't want to make another distro incorporating $hugesetofchanges, > so you just want others to work on it for free incorporating them > instead? I wanted to help other people that would like to have glibc in Alpine. If there is none then it is the answer as well. That is why I ask here. > last i checked nobody working on alpine was working for 'a market' to > make money out of (with alpine)- personally i do it for free, but maybe > we are all supposed to be getting paid? certainly, if someone was > throwing free money my way maybe this would be an actual interesting > project to work towards. I am not sure I understand. I also send patches to open source in my time. We are doing it for fun. And it is more fun when there are more users. > then use a glibc distro? i don't get it, again, as Laurent has said, > nothing whatsoever is forcing you to use musl or alpine. I know and I mentioned. Please do not take it offensive. I am just asking if Alpine users would like it. > i understand you believe you are not asking for much, just a 'small' set > of compatibility patches to easily allow someone else to 'build alpine > but with glibc'.. but if they are as easy as you have demonstrated and > claim, then.. you're done? you successfully made all the changes, and > can now build your forked+patched aports whenever you wish with glibc, > and can keep it that way. sounds like you already found the solution, > and can keep working on it there, as your own project. sadly though, > this is indeed 'an entire other distro'.. though you are basically > already done making it. I am not sure if I was rude. I hope I was not. Yes I can do all of that. But there is nothing wrong with trying to find better options. If that options are not viable I understand it. > a very easy solution (for all the others): use literally any other > glibc-based distribution. Yes it is definitely one of the options.