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From: Michael Forney <mforney@mforney.org>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 22:37:29 -0800
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Subject: Re: Proposal: replace ninja with samurai
To: Natanael Copa <ncopa@alpinelinux.org>
Cc: Drew DeVault <sir@cmpwn.com>, ~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org
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On 2019-12-11, Natanael Copa <ncopa@alpinelinux.org> wrote:
> Does chromium build with samurai? Does chromium developers support
> builds with samurai?

chromium, llvm, and mesa are my usual sanity check build targets
before I make a release. That covers large projects for most major
build systems using ninja (gn, cmake, and meson).

> I also saw that there was a comparison with pkg-config vs pkgconf on
> IRC. The main motivator for pkgconf switch was that pkg-config
> introduced a circular dependency (pkg-config -> glib -> pkg-config).
> The pkgconf author is also an Alpine developer so any issues we had
> with pkgconf were fixed very quick upstream.
>
> Do we have similar problems with ninja?
>
> Can we expect the same level of support from samurai that we have with
> pkgconf?

ninja requires itself to build, but also comes with a configure.py
script that, when passed --bootstrap, first builds a version of ninja
as it generates .ninja files, then uses that to build itself. So,
there is no issue bootstrapping ninja in practice.

The current patch you have for ninja-1.9.0 was an issue I reported in
[0] over a month before the release was made as I was looking through
the ninja commits to make corresponding behavior changes in samurai.
nykula submitted a patch for this shortly afterward. The patch did not
get applied until 8 months later, and is still not in any release of
ninja.

I've been using musl enthusiastically since 2013, and am a musl
release sponsor, so you can expect samurai's musl support to be better
than ninja's.

I'm not sure what level of support you get with pkgconf, but I have
fixed all reported bugs so far within a couple days (usually on the
same day).

-Michael

[0] https://github.com/ninja-build/ninja/issues/1510