X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@mail.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (mail-ob0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDCD8DC0066 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 21:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id wp4so187092obc.6 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 13:15:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pWBJ7d4VYQ51gxTqYXmDBsnq+45qDl9SAc8PH9ILtWs=; b=fpPt6D6Nn4uvjfaaEySA+bA3NA2qsmkjaut8FO9k+AJDGqXPh2OYm7FlEGGdIyVts3 7GkCCFDLnRwZojBbOMvoKLsvf1ZbetOozW3+lzqH2FAVfQM+PnEmgY1Fjo5xXVl+Y7iy hjRpZ+oyvh7g678Jkp/nt5iVQoos/5kN2fvtj7kOm0Q7rdYwCXMtaSxK5mkkJDylgCgp ioTeweW8J9JXFXLX3hGbrb36jLv2HvQXbwf4OmzsjLzbJ9kieW9bQkuyhAOPm3ja3Mg1 ctVnApCv/TXztx8lE0V8d6GrbsEb/Nh9QypwnGHs3uVrLINv+RUj1bAu/vJr1xmLZXDc AYjg== X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.144.135 with SMTP id sm7mr35032649oeb.56.1420578954514; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 13:15:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.102.195 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:15:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 00:15:54 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: [alpine-devel] ARM support From: qnx4ever To: timo.teras@iki.fi, alpine-devel , florian.heigl@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b472292f5989f050c024fc1 --047d7b472292f5989f050c024fc1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello gents,I have just tried Debian on my HTC Vision and it runs like a charm. Do you think we ever going to get there with Alp ? http://sven-ola.dyndns.org/repo/debian-kit-en.html Btw, any reco on simple compute cluster kits for Alp ? I wish openMosix was ever ported to newer kernels ;(. From: Timo Teras > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 13:19:21 +0300 Hi, On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:48:20 +0200 Florian Heigl wrote: *> there was a recent question about what ARM based hardware people care* *> about / wished it had Alpine support.* *>* *> In my case I use the following:* *>* *> Raspi (Debian atm, would only switch if all funny performance patches* *> are available, because otherwise it=E2=80=99s just too slow) It does NTP= ,* *> DHCP, DNS* Can you define 'performance patches'? We are currently building only armhf variant (hard-float), which is the major performance issue. Also we do linux-rpi (non-grsec) kernel with the github stuff applied (planning to push it to aports today). There is also some omxplayer, and some otherstuff packaged. But eg. Qt is not compiled with the rpi stuff; at least not yet. Need to figure out how to do that nicely. *> 2x CubieTruck (Debian, would love to =E2=80=9Cfree=E2=80=9D them). They= =E2=80=99re my Apache,* *> Monitoring and MooseFS storage nodes, etc. I know some other Alpine* *> users also have them. They=E2=80=99re a nice deal, two cores, 2GB Ram, N= AND.* *> They=E2=80=99re not 100% ready for a stock kernel, afaik.* *>* *> 3x Zyxel NSA 325 Nas (Still on stock plus a Debian chroot. I might* *> switch them to Arch, but I=E2=80=99d love something that runs natively o= n the* *> NAND and not off USB)* *>* *> 1x Nexus7 - Running Ubuntu, I=E2=80=99ll probably change this back to* *> Android. It=E2=80=99s the only of the pack that has a good CPU, but it l= acks* *> support for parallel USB devices and charging.* For everything else, I'd like to just ship single multiplatform kernel. If these are doable by just enabling proper kernel config / u-boot image, it'll be simple to add. We can consider adding patches to -grsec kernel if they are not too intrusive and apply to -grsec tree. I'm also consider if we should in addition to 'armhf' variant provide a dedicated build for armv7+ that defaults to build everything in thumb2 mode. Seems that rpi is really the only armv6 thing in the wild. All other popular boards start to be armv7. *> I hope this gives some overview of whats out there in the wild.* Yeah. Thanks. --047d7b472292f5989f050c024fc1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello gents,
I have just tried Debian on my HTC Vis= ion and it runs like a charm. Do you think we ever going to get there with = Alp ?
http://sven-ola.dyndns.org/repo/debian-kit-en.html<= br>
Btw, any reco on simple compute cluste= r kits for Alp ? I wish openMosix was ever ported to newer kernels ;(.

From: Timo Teras <timo.teras_at_iki.fi>=C2= =A0
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 13:19:21 +0300


Hi,=C2=A0

On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:48:20 +0200=C2=A0
Florian Heigl <florian.heigl_at_gm= ail.com> wrote:=C2=A0

>= there was a recent question about what ARM based hardware people care=C2=A0
>= about / wished it had Alpine support.=C2=A0=
>= =C2=A0
>= In my case I use the following:=C2=A0
>= =C2=A0
>= Raspi (Debian atm, would only switch if all funny performance patches=C2=A0
>= are available, because otherwise it=E2=80=99s just too slow) It does NTP,<= /span>=C2=A0
>= DHCP, DNS=C2=A0

Can you define 'performance patches'? We are currently building only=C2=A0
armhf variant (hard-float), which is the major performance issue. Also=C2=A0
we do linux-rpi (non-grsec) kernel with the github stuff applied= =C2=A0
(plannin= g to push it to aports today).=C2=A0

There is also some omxplayer, and some otherstuff packaged. But eg. Qt=C2=A0
is not compiled with the rpi stuff; at least not yet. Need to figure=C2=A0
out how to do that nicely.=C2=A0

>= 2x CubieTruck (Debian, would love to =E2=80=9Cfree=E2=80=9D them). They=E2= =80=99re my Apache,=C2=A0
>= Monitoring and MooseFS storage nodes, etc. I know some other Alpine= =C2=A0
>= users also have them. They=E2=80=99re a nice deal, two cores, 2GB Ram, NAND.=C2=A0
>= They=E2=80=99re not 100% ready for a stock kernel, afaik.=C2=A0
>= =C2=A0
>= 3x Zyxel NSA 325 Nas (Still on stock plus a Debian chroot. I might<= /em>=C2=A0
>= switch them to Arch, but I=E2=80=99d love something that runs natively on the=C2=A0
>= NAND and not off USB)=C2=A0
>= =C2=A0
>= 1x Nexus7 - Running Ubuntu, I=E2=80=99ll probably change this back to=C2=A0
>= Android. It=E2=80=99s the only of the pack that has a good CPU, but it lacks=C2=A0
>= support for parallel USB devices and charging.=C2= =A0

For everything else, I'd like to just ship single multiplatform kernel.=C2=A0
If these are doable by just enabling proper kernel config / u-boot=C2=A0
image, it'll be simple to add. We can consider adding patches to -grsec=C2=A0
kernel if they are not too intrusive and apply to -grsec tree.=C2= =A0

I'm also consider if we should in addition to 'armhf' variant provide a= =C2=A0
dedicate= d build for armv7+ that defaults to build everything in thumb2=C2=A0
mode. Seems that rpi is really the only armv6 thing in the wild. All=C2=A0
other popular boards start to be armv7.=C2=A0

>= I hope this gives some overview of whats out there in the wild.=C2=A0

Yeah. Thanks.=C2=A0

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