X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-qk1-f174.google.com (mail-qk1-f174.google.com [209.85.222.174]) by lists.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E6BF831B4 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 21:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk1-f174.google.com with SMTP id c1so3487731qkk.4 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:45:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=D0I0SwWHsQu4sP3yHJbZzmgtAHPe8X7H2gbpLUR+B2w=; b=XKQmDlzqH1DzdRnPUe4A7Juwk72b2p3lxPF1QLe6OcwZznHpXG07atiR5QM7/Astu7 UfeT1BEYuZC64IKuUVFyvyNLCqsjOVuty2rX13M5Pms5gh+0PhPyxubWaIfPbduZYYiL Key5yHJjumFdUVFHMWi/r1iWf3l84MY38ajyhlwHu+3qY9RdR9JHVRHrDdnOqPNIT35a 5Zl8G2UYLuXseEnIUOOaEiD1Qf8e86thD9+QSr/3ZVEs27PH8mjNI94H8bO4s5h4Bd5f AN9uYCRwepCE57mqgDOfwuOBHMyJIgyQxawRLzregG1A1k8X93TvIayjohEn5D8cNNW+ UFGg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=D0I0SwWHsQu4sP3yHJbZzmgtAHPe8X7H2gbpLUR+B2w=; b=BlvvbINiVpENy37bgrnQ4QDjsvgsGF5uL1LbHWXhbszG0S2qAwKTM0KC0mHhKRrHNr Pnl8ng8uezvmFcuwKraeZN6hOOKUX4+VTGgsjcr0y86zCxk9z3Hvvn+B4mHj5ZU2Cg3w mUu+K1LyxUUZemkWibe8WkTstVnpjVuvG07yg7eNW9IABG5dzMYnIZETtn3JyIxUOFMP M+wlpOEm+liU/kelbkPnGyzs4hWwE4WFvXitAU3Wi1HclHwT3OhEC3FDxKNn+CyB9lmG xPWHx9MW5J8GK7wTMt3uSM60O6e5wBYzek14A+L0UW5xdvYzbbApTNbjhjSVEHbDeF3u cBJw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXqapGasAHCl7L+ZtXlWCFS/YdwHEzH2AGw2zxqRCzSiYKH14jx AJSMQdsCtMM4+STJmaQTw56takuUqY5GCnkCFmk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyKkYSQKi9OPaNH42RPyc3VWNsqey4rFx8kVUvPRS0gJASdTKgoMWeo9Qv7Py6DXqDw9KGlHf0ImUyGmVmwU84= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:14b0:: with SMTP id x16mr42158961qkj.187.1553982348808; Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:45:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190329094036.55ea5837@ncopa-desktop.copa.dup.pw> In-Reply-To: <20190329094036.55ea5837@ncopa-desktop.copa.dup.pw> From: Timothy Legge Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:45:42 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] RFC: Project goals and guiding principles To: Natanael Copa Cc: Alpine Development Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e356c5058556b53b" --000000000000e356c5058556b53b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I just found Alpine recently and have no real idea what prompted this thread nor do I really care enough to look back. Over the years I have been involved in a lot of different projects, some as a casual contributor and one brief time as a co project leader. I've mellowed as I get older and things I will tolerate are both more and less. I participate at the fringes mostly. If I like the software or need a feature I add it send a pull request. I like it when it gets accepted but if it doesn't it's not a big deal. I've worked with all kinds but like bullys the least. Some people are abrupt and rude but not horrible. Some are just assholes. Challenging someone to do better is fine. No one grows if they are comfortable. Making someone uncomfortable without encouraging growth, or causing injury is not acceptable. The guidelines seem the right direction. Whether I stick around remains to be seen but as a project and people strive to do good and be good. Tim On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 5:41 AM Natanael Copa, wrote: > Hi! > > We would like to revise and formalize how we are organized. The current > way we are written in those two emails: > > https://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-devel/6024.html > https://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-devel/6025.html > > Before we start discuss specific rules I would like to get some sort of > consensus of the bigger picture, the project goals and guiding > principles. Since this affects everyone involved in the project I > invite everyone to comment. > > Even short responses with "ACK" is helpful. > > This is the current proposal: > > == Project Goals > - To build and maintain an independent, non-commercial, general purpose > Linux distribution designed for power users who appreciate security, > simplicity and resource efficiency. > - To maintain a friendly and productive community within. > > === Guiding Principles > - Build a community based on mutual trust, responsibility, and respect > - Prevent and respond to abuses of power without disrupting the project > - Empower motivated people to effect change and progress > - Do the right thing over doing the written thing > > > Thanks! > > -nc > > > --- > Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org > Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org > --- > > --000000000000e356c5058556b53b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just found Alpine recently and have no real idea what p= rompted this thread nor do I really care enough to look back.=C2=A0 Over th= e years I have been involved in a lot of different projects, some as a casu= al contributor and one brief time as a co project leader.
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I've mellowed as I get older and things I w= ill tolerate are both more and less.=C2=A0 I participate at the fringes mos= tly.=C2=A0 If I like the software or need a feature I add it send a pull re= quest.=C2=A0 I like it when it gets accepted but if it doesn't it's= not a big deal.

I'v= e worked with all kinds but like bullys the least.=C2=A0 Some people are ab= rupt and rude but not horrible.=C2=A0 Some are just assholes.=C2=A0 Challen= ging someone to do better is fine.=C2=A0 No one grows if they are comfortab= le.=C2=A0 Making someone uncomfortable without encouraging growth, or causi= ng injury=C2=A0 is not acceptable.

The guidelines seem the right direction.=C2=A0 Whether I stick a= round remains to be seen but as a project and people strive to do good and = be good.

Tim
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On Fri= , Mar 29, 2019, 5:41 AM Natanael Copa, <ncopa@alpinelinux.org> wrote:
Hi!

We would like to revise and formalize how we are organized. The current
way we are written in those two emails:

https://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-= devel/6024.html
https://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-= devel/6025.html

Before we start discuss specific rules I would like to get some sort of
consensus of the bigger picture, the project goals and guiding
principles. Since this affects everyone involved in the project I
invite everyone to comment.

Even short responses with "ACK" is helpful.

This is the current proposal:

=3D=3D Project Goals
- To build and maintain an independent, non-commercial, general purpose
=C2=A0 Linux distribution designed for power users who appreciate security,=
=C2=A0 simplicity and resource efficiency.
- To maintain a friendly and productive community within.

=3D=3D=3D Guiding Principles
- Build a community based on mutual trust, responsibility, and respect
- Prevent and respond to abuses of power without disrupting the project
- Empower motivated people to effect change and progress
- Do the right thing over doing the written thing


Thanks!

-nc


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