X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Delivered-To: alpine-devel@mail.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 545FADC019F for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:01:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n9so4913752oag.13 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:01:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=UTY9vHzsimwjyHvhRH3dLDITdzZCtMYidpzxw+1ZKZ8=; b=AeI0jMIoSdmclPqK35cPW5YtkWxHMDpG41p4z1XIxNAPecaF4YltWRZQ3zBh8LX8KH ZD5JmBhAfSvf87UFTf+Pm1SmIcJ4JjSJNOvEMWm0921LRlb0LeogGcd6xNvXrS9UYlJY kivSg6g8krrMjJC1/xezMwkiR/dayVi8sZJV/JMfEcE7G7fT6D+PmfNClCTrdIRi65TC KxxPtrswBRX0B1fO/oLQK3iyOS8BL2nId2TKfz8O44oHwgqdXS0BkCohKSoR31dM62Ml d7+oEIyOfbObr/Ky8CaBJv9PlcCBn3FoOanwHw4jOW7rCY9tZGYHVWw29yx3dGrFKpog 3A1Q== X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.22.33 with SMTP id a1mr686678oef.97.1352462477533; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 04:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.113.200 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 04:01:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121109092802.GA2347@vaio.jimpryor.net> References: <20121109092802.GA2347@vaio.jimpryor.net> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:01:17 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] Minimal ram requirements? From: =?UTF-8?Q?C=C3=A9dric_Schieli?= To: Dubiousjim Cc: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f8ac8ba21704ce0eb5b8 --e89a8fb1f8ac8ba21704ce0eb5b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I guess it depends of the usage, but it can be useful even with only 64 MB. Here are some current stats from my master "AlpineDirectory" system (master DNS+DHCP+master LDAP+master Kerberos+NTP) running on a Soekris net4501 : cerbere:~# uname -a Linux cerbere 2.6.32.15-grsec #8-Alpine SMP Wed Jun 16 11:26:43 UTC 2010 i486 GNU/Linux cerbere:~# free total used free shared buffers Mem: 51876 48744 3132 0 700 Swap: 0 0 0 Total: 51876 48744 3132 cerbere:~# uptime 12:50:57 up 429 days, 2:23, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 The same for its slave (slave DNS+slave LDAP+slave Kerberos+NTP+Squid) : charon:~# uname -a Linux charon 2.6.32.15-grsec #8-Alpine SMP Wed Jun 16 11:26:43 UTC 2010 i486 GNU/Linux charon:~# free total used free shared buffers Mem: 51876 49068 2808 0 36 Swap: 0 0 0 Total: 51876 49068 2808 charon:~# uptime 12:57:09 up 429 days, 2:30, load average: 0.06, 0.01, 0.00 Regards, C=C3=A9dric Schieli 2012/11/9 Dubiousjim > Does anyone know what are minimal ram requirements for doing something > useful with Alpine? I don't mean absolutely bare minimum to run, but > something like a minimum recommended amount? I ask because I was adding > Alpine to some wikis listing lightweight or run-from-ram distros, and > some of these enumerate what the distros claim their ram requirements to > be. (Such as > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions_that_run_from_RA= M > .) > > But I couldn't find any discussion of this anywhere for Alpine. If I > boot from an ISO (on a USB stick) and don't do anything further, about > 47 or 59 MB of RAM are in use. But I'd be surprised if it were possible > to usefully use Alpine on a machine with only 64 MB of ram. I expect 512 > MB of ram is plenty. In between??? I don't know. Does anyone have > relevant experience? > > -- > Dubiousjim > dubiousjim@gmail.com > > > --- > Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org > Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org > --- > > --e89a8fb1f8ac8ba21704ce0eb5b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,


I guess it depends of the usage, but it can be useful eve= n with only 64 MB.

Here are some current stats from my master "= AlpineDirectory" system (master DNS+DHCP+master LDAP+master Kerberos+N= TP) running on a Soekris net4501 :

cerbere:~# uname -a
Linux cerbere 2.6.32.15-grsec #8-Alpine SMP Wed = Jun 16 11:26:43 UTC 2010 i486 GNU/Linux

cerbere:~# free
=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 total= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 used=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 free=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 shared= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 buffers
=C2=A0 Mem:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 51876=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 48744= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 3132=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 700
=C2=A0Swap:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0
Tot= al:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 51876=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 48744=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 31= 32

cerbere:~# uptime
=C2=A012:50:57 up 429 days,=C2=A0 2:23, load= average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00


The same for its slave (slave DNS+sla= ve LDAP+slave Kerberos+NTP+Squid) :

charon:~# uname -a
Linux charon 2.6.32.15-grsec #8-Alpine SMP Wed Ju= n 16 11:26:43 UTC 2010 i486 GNU/Linux

charon:~# free
=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 total=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 used=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 free=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 shared=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 buffers
=C2=A0 Mem:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 51876=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 49068=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2808=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 36
=C2=A0Swap:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0
Tot= al:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 51876=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 49068=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 28= 08

charon:~# uptime
=C2=A012:57:09 up 429 days,=C2=A0 2:30, load = average: 0.06, 0.01, 0.00


Regards,
C=C3=A9dric Schieli


2012/11/9 Dub= iousjim <lists+alpine-devel@jimpryor.net>
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Does anyone know what are minimal ram requirements for doing something
useful with Alpine? I don't mean absolutely bare minimum to run, but something like a minimum recommended amount? I ask because I was adding
Alpine to some wikis listing lightweight or run-from-ram distros, and
some of these enumerate what the distros claim their ram requirements to be. (Such as
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_di= stributions_that_run_from_RAM.)

But I couldn't find any discussion of this anywhere for Alpine. If I boot from an ISO (on a USB stick) and don't do anything further, about<= br> 47 or 59 MB of RAM are in use. But I'd be surprised if it were possible=
to usefully use Alpine on a machine with only 64 MB of ram. I expect 512 MB of ram is plenty. In between??? I don't know. Does anyone have
relevant experience?

--
Dubiousjim
dubiousjim@gmail.com


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