Received: from out1.migadu.com (out1.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FBE9781218 for <~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:42:16 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ayaya.dev; s=key1; t=1655818935; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=OKZdORzToh2f+BY33voAVolUWfFCG4wXdd+bTinx8R8=; b=rgwKu157ritRWZkt7UNdQpY0aAN8NUpgHEy2D/3vbAxZOGVgq7DjMZbnPtAXFkqKBRl7nT 0SljgYXPPDqKFPBeZN/fWrKsc9478EsyANvraM38B5cI7gEE+cyKyYAwcd8+DsLimMBiqV XoEkGaWeWtuWH84bvo5D4ODEqeqGrOw= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 15:42:14 +0200 Message-Id: Cc: "Thomas Lamprecht" , <~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org> Subject: Re: Native Alpine GLibc support (NEW) X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. From: "alice" To: "Tomas Kolda" , "Jakub Panek" References: <20220621095653.71773d59@ncopa-desktop.lan> <20220621114559.4d38d98e@ncopa-desktop.lan> In-Reply-To: X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Migadu-Auth-User: ayaya.dev On Tue Jun 21, 2022 at 3:39 PM CEST, Tomas Kolda wrote: > =C3=BAt 21. 6. 2022 v 15:05 odes=C3=ADlatel Jakub Panek n= apsal: > > > > As a person that dabbles with Alpine and is somewhat active in communit= y, > > I agree that glibc doesn't feel right with Alpine. It's not a component > > that you can simply replace in ecosystem as everything has to be rebuil= t > > against it. IMO, libc and package manager are base components which mak= e > > OS distinct so calling it Alpine with glibc would be a disservice as > > Alpine focuses on size, simplicity and security, which for glibc I > > would say neither are a focus. > > > So the Alpine can be first distro that supports two libc libraries! ;-) void linux already does, unless you specifically mean multilib'd at the same time. and gentoo, of course :) > > > > I would be happy to contribute towards apk-tools + glibc OS (option b)) > > and it's ports as much as I can but would really recommend for it > > to define itself as separate project from Alpine (e.g. different name). > > I could also provide some compute and storage for it. > > > As Natanael said it would increase the resource needs (people) even > more. I think... Changing one library does not need to generate > another distro. Maybe I should share it somehow so you can try it in > chroot or docker to see there is really actually almost no change > which I like most. > > Maybe Jakube we can setup a repository of packages somewhere on your > web server? I can copy it there. Then it is easy to start to play with > that as you have build toolchain ready.