X-Original-To: alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Received: from mail-40130.protonmail.ch (mail-40130.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.130]) by lists.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A1D5C6370 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 00:11:24 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 00:11:10 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=default; t=1537143079; bh=muF2bdxcWgQDTL57q4nokv6NJPPoSXFVfNL/7n0aEbw=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From; b=Y1VfNQAJMBfaZVo2qf5heQ/fTkrThhXApZl4HEtttxixv2asfKx9XGa2YabkJU0QD Z7EXam7pZOc3ULZgzGCGQya9gKYNxEs7o7sPZxIxK15+tL3Kts/1XKxmsgpR+WVOgi uPX43/5T5hz23rnEj9J4ER2Ly8H+qGt0Bg6wE518= To: Shiz From: ecsx Cc: Daniel Isaksen , "alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org" Reply-To: ecsx Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] Julia missing from alpine v3.8 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <1535967427.2894146.1494851992.1C38456F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1536098423.3081610.1496826688.060747A7@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1536412790.2815508.1501150232.241916D8@webmail.messagingengine.com> Feedback-ID: rfqEyWCqWp1raYnSrQM7wRmLaD8V0x-8nfFhjPo0Xf4EctzPnMsu1XXI2RUPT3HPiFWcIJFwPnnZyvTgi9-DmQ==:Ext:ProtonMail X-Mailinglist: alpine-devel Precedence: list List-Id: Alpine Development List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on mail.protonmail.ch Awesome! Just knowing it's not gone for good is enough to me. I'll just use v0.6 by tagging the Alpine v3.7 repository. I'm sure packaging whole languages are hard task. Let's hope your difficult= ies help Julia devs simplify their build methods. Love, ecs =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Sunday, September 16, 2018 6:03 PM, Shiz wrote: > Hi, maintainer here =E2=80=94 > > I=E2=80=99ve been looking at trying to get Julia running, but last time I > checked it wasn=E2=80=99t trivial and I was running out of time, sadly. > I can try taking another look at it over the week seeing the demand, > but even if further delayed it=E2=80=99s not gone for good. :) > > - Shiz > > > On 15 Sep 2018, at 14:05, ecsx ecsx@protonmail.com wrote: > > That worked, thanks. > > Still unfortunate that it's stuck on v0.6 when Julia v1.0 milestone was= reached. > > Also I suggest to add a note on https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.= 8.0-released.html that Julia is not available after upgrade. > > It was a big blow to see only afterwards that it was gone. > > Any word from the maintainer about eventual Julia comeback? Or if it's = gone for good. > > Best, > > ecs > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Origina= l Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80= =90 > > On Saturday, September 8, 2018 11:48 AM, Daniel Isaksen d@duniel.no wro= te: > > Hi, > > You should be able to do package pinning and install older Julia from 3= .7 on 3.8 if you really need/want it. > > > > Sincerely / Med vennlig hilsen, > > Daniel Isaksen d@duniel.no (https://duniel.no) > > On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 4:45 PM, ecsx ecsx@protonmail.com wrote: > > It's unfortunate but I don't know much about build systems either. I co= uldn't help anyway. > > All I wanted was to use Julia like I did on Alpine v3.7. > > I'm even considering going back from Alpine v3.8 to v3.7 because I need= Julia for an university course. > > But thanks for the help! > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Origina= l Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80= =90 > > On Saturday, 8 September 2018 10:19, Jean-Louis Fuchs ganwell@fangorn.c= h wrote: > > > > > Hi ecsx > > > You're absolutely right, these things should be upstreamed and that i= s also what keeps me from doing it. I don't know anything about julia. It i= s too scary for me: > > > > > > - Their build-system is completely hand-written, so as a maintainer= you have to find out everything you know about standard build-systems agai= n > > > - Then almost every patch for 0.6.2 fails with 1.0.0 and most not b= ecause the issues are fixed > > > - Too many tests fail > > > > > Complicated packages are quite common, julia isn't alone. But it = requires a lot of dedication to get it working and then get fixes upstreame= d. > > > > > > You are very welcome to give it a try. I would help you to get st= arted with alpine development. We can talk on IRC. > > > > > > Best, > > > Jean-Louis > > > > > > On Sat, 8 Sep 2018, at 12:38, ecsx wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jean. > > > > What's non-standard about it? > > > > Could we propose a patch or at least report upstream? > > > > Thank you. > > > > All the best. > > > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Ori= ginal Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90= =E2=80=90 > > > > On Tuesday, 4 September 2018 19:00, Jean-Louis Fuchs ganwell@fangor= n.ch wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi ecsx > > > > > > > > > > > It has a lot patches and seems rather fragile. I check if 1.0 l= ess > > > > > > fragile, but no promises. > > > > > > > > > > It seems they added even more non-standard procedures to their bu= ild-system. One can waste a lot of time on this apk. Since I don't use juli= a, I'm out. > > > > > Best, > > > > > Jean-Louis > > > > Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org > > Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------- --- Unsubscribe: alpine-devel+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org Help: alpine-devel+help@lists.alpinelinux.org ---