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Subject: Re: [alpine-devel] [DRAFT] Alpine Linux Code of Conduct
From: Jakub Jirutka <jakub@jirutka.cz>
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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 01:46:57 +0200
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References: <CA+T2pCHT4AZPHXLCwJXp7_S9fLD47mCXZPA3vbav9Jbebh1=gQ@mail.gmail.com> <59D6AE12.2040400@adelielinux.org>
To: Alpine-devel <alpine-devel@lists.alpinelinux.org>

> Not sure if you want to explicitly call out discrimination based on =
programming language preference in the explicitly disallowed conduct =
section as well.  It=E2=80=99s sometimes scary to be a Python developer =
in #alpine-devel, and I really feel for the Go programmers as well.


Oh, maybe also explicitly call out discrimination based on political =
views, favourite brand of a beer, tabs/spaces preference, relation to =
Star Wars and Star Trek, =E2=80=A6, and gazillion of other things some =
people may feel uncomfortable hearing an opposite opinion=E2=80=A6 =
Don=E2=80=99t you see how insane is this?

Maybe I should also advocate for adding explicit disapproval of public =
accusation without any real evidence=E2=80=A6

Jakub

> On 6. Oct 2017, at 0:11, A. Wilcox <awilfox@adelielinux.org> wrote:
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> Signed PGP part
> On 05/10/17 03:14, William Pitcock wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > As I have mentioned before, I have been working on a proposed Code
> > of Conduct, in the spirit of previous proposals.
> >
> > This is the first public proposed draft for the Code of Conduct.
> > If there is consensus, it will be implemented shortly after the
> > 3.7 release occurs.  Breaches of the Code of Conduct requiring
> > third-party mediation will be handled by a not-yet-created team.
> > An actual proposal putting the Code of Conduct into force and
> > creating a moderation team to handle issues surrounding it will be
> > put forward after the 3.7 release is published.
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> One small idea: the moderation team should probably be held to a more
> strict code of conduct than the rest of the project, since they are -
> by design - the people who are going to be dealing with CoC =
violations.
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> It doesn't have to be anything major, but for example, they should
> probably try to stay out of arguments even on -offtopic channels so
> that all members of the community feel they are neutral.  Otherwise,
> you run the risk of people "gaming the system" by choosing moderators
> that will side with them (or against the other party) based on
> offtopic spill over... seen that happen before, guess where ;)
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> > In effect, the goal of this Code of Conduct was to take parts of
> > the previous Alpine Code of Conduct proposals and merge them with
> > other Codes of Conduct observed in the larger Alpine ecosystem
> > (Docker, Adelie, et al).
> >
> > It is hoped that this Code of Conduct will contribute towards a
> > more inclusive, friendly and diverse Alpine community.  As such, I
> > would appreciate any feedback and suggestions to improve it.
> >
> > A rendered version of the Code of Conduct is available at:
> > https://gist.github.com/kaniini/d27feb68f4dfc771bfc746de8d816838
> >
> > The plaintext draft Code of Conduct follows:
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> [snip]
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> +1 looks good.
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> Not sure if you want to explicitly call out discrimination based on
> programming language preference in the explicitly disallowed conduct
> section as well.  It's sometimes scary to be a Python developer in
> #alpine-devel, and I really feel for the Go programmers as well.
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> All the best,
> --arw
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> --
> A. Wilcox (awilfox)
> Project Lead, Ad=C3=A9lie Linux
> http://adelielinux.org
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