Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 12:39:46 +0000
To: Rasmus Thomsen <oss@cogitri.dev>
From: ecsx <ecsx@protonmail.com>
Cc: Natanael Copa <ncopa@alpinelinux.org>, Alpine develmopment <~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org>
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Subject: Re: Alpine 3.12.0 release candidate 1 is out
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> They'll both be equally well maintained, but ff-esr will stay on the
> supported esr version (right now 68.x), while ff (non-esr) will always
> be the latest release. As such you probably want to use ff-esr if you
> value stability (as in no UI changes, no new features etc.) and ff if
> you want the latest features or speed improvements.

I did not keep up with both versions and updates.
Did it happen as you expected? Did ff and ff-esr got same speed with upgrad=
es and were equally maintained?
I see in the wiki schedule that 3.13.0 is getting close and I will decide a=
gain between ff and ff-esr (because both are in community repo).
So I just want to know if the position is the same and if everything worked=
 out as you planned in 3.12.0?
I think the most important question is what was the SLA for security update=
s for ff and ff-esr and if one was better maintained.
Sorry for so many questions but I depend on having updated ff for security =
critical reasons.

I'm asking all this assuming 3.13.0 will ship with both options again and w=
ill I have to choose one. If that's not the plan please let me know

Thanks all for the awesome work. There's no distro like alpine.



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On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 1:35 PM, Rasmus Thomsen <oss@cogitri.dev> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> first off, thanks for testing the RC! :)
>
> On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 15:23 +0000, ecsx wrote:
>
> > I've been using 3.12.0-RC1 for the last days and it's working well so
> > far. I got just a few notes.
> >
> > -   There's firefox-esr and firefox in community repo now. Are they
> >     equally maintained? Which one is recommended? It's been clear in th=
e
> >     past (with firefox-esr in community and firefox in testing) that yo=
u
> >     should choose firefox-esr for stability and better support. What no=
w?
> >
>
> They'll both be equally well maintained, but ff-esr will stay on the
> supported esr version (right now 68.x), while ff (non-esr) will always
> be the latest release. As such you probably want to use ff-esr if you
> value stability (as in no UI changes, no new features etc.) and ff if
> you want the latest features or speed improvements. I imagine most end
> users will want ff (non-esr).
>
> > -   python3 doesn't provide a python binary or symlink, just a python3.
> >     The end-of-life python2 still owns `python`. For the next RC it
> >     should be the other way around?
> >
>
> We tried removing the /usr/bin/python symlink from python2 in time for
> 3.12 but unfortunately too many things in aports still rely on
> /usr/bin/python being python2. Unfortunately it's now too late in the
> release process for such a big change - but with 3.13 /usr/bin/python
> being python2 should be a thing of the past.
>
> > -   Are there any guides for syslinux installation on modern (UEFI)
> >     boards? I couldn't get it to work and ended up using GRUB.
> >
>
> I could swear we have a wiki article about this (which I can't find
> right now though), but I have to admit I always use rEFInd or GRUB on
> my machines, so maybe someone else knows more about that :)
>
> > I'll keep using this RC and let you know if any bug pops up but so
> > far it's good.
> > Congrats!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Rasmus Thomsen