Received: from mx1.tetrasec.net (mx1.tetrasec.net [66.245.176.36]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79E40780FA7; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:16:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.tetrasec.net (mail.local [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tetrasec.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1362679030; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.17.48.222] (68-187-202-164.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com [68.187.202.164]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: nangel@tetrasec.net) by mx1.tetrasec.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0C8B7902F; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: mailing lists, processes, modernization From: Nathan Angelacos To: Ariadne Conill , ~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org, ~alpine/devel@lists.alpinelinux.org Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 09:16:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <66694f73048e047cadbe9e3f715801d8@dereferenced.org> References: <66694f73048e047cadbe9e3f715801d8@dereferenced.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, On Sat, 2020-04-18 at 03:48 +0000, Ariadne Conill wrote: > Hello, > > When Alpine was first started we had a single mailing list, alpine- > devel,which was running on ezmlm. > Initially, we discussed the aports mailing list. This has been > deprecated and replaced with the new mkmr tool[1]. Many users are > now using the mkmr tool and that effort has been considered largely > successful. > For the support inquiries that get sent to alpine-devel and alpine- > user, I propose that we use Discourse forums instead. > it seems plausible that we could write a script to dump the mailing > list archives as static HTML pages. > > Thoughts? As the person who set up the original ezmlm lists, and someone who is a "die-hard email user", I don't see a problem with this proposal. You addressed one of my pain points with mentioning the mkmr tool, which, to be honest, I was not aware of. I certainly don't mind learning new tools, or doing things differently, as long as there's some coaching for us old "grey-beards" :) I'm not a huge fan of Discourse, but I agree that it would probably ease the friction for new users to get assistance. And that's the goal at this point, right? And yes, we want to keep the old mailing lists for archival. Thumbs up from here.