Received: from mail-lf1-f53.google.com (mail-lf1-f53.google.com [209.85.167.53]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2084D781A65 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-f53.google.com with SMTP id x3so42291548lfc.0 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 07:22:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CBXG2LJ+8d3BJ81xbW3ePAzbi3584Hs3vFP8waioOp8=; b=fub8vE5nQglswNE2U9e9Q4mFmgPiFWB4zmyOfBcBSe9r9KgR3a+pFPOwTWhHWs2l77 RcBTrKE8T4eKFLpTOCWE90MyL3qOs9ANtP3rC+PgmGT6Zxgl6WGjXQFeWufYsgS1pHp2 y26kqUQzNvR1VIUC1DpHPFgFc/OjncyJXRi88PKHTkiNo3uF23QBeMUJopdtP4hXbOvq SyZa2qDgugPZg4I8f1oXw7AkZbEfHQEHZna8iZDocNAamYR+TWEi7SGRHmf6Fp7AUX/U cm3mDIRBQlFAnOUk2Nii5/RBys4Eo4k/JGmouzc7UKyJ2Cmbd3uU3rS9y7HvALxTRtRF Dy1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CBXG2LJ+8d3BJ81xbW3ePAzbi3584Hs3vFP8waioOp8=; b=r01FLIzV48Sgaiun2lAgRecImWYlJ2EcXd8VVF2baU21rBlK/RXDe14fEIoGRer0O2 TXntosyDLGpruiybgmGVuH/Qh1oW+GV6Wzkuv84hNrcv29FKyzR+pfU8F/OcQyQwGzKl zFqQoFstKcMxS3YzvAAjMTIyv4k5YmF94cqCg9mJ4S1cy1wlmrrmWrJ+gICfZbyI0sLv V9ztbUMwU/RNtqBxK00DzoNh2YRvv0t/tgkZn/RutnfwDJvmqDx/U7bpE0wQAa6PzIYh AgCP7YHlrsXKAsnUMkCTPZvtiTFezLRt5sHF9Pgo/SV6bEm5ExIetLAjQTGqz79AVVJY KP2Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXtlTIEQgcnOFWbSnnFYub+3UPHzr8vsQoWpC6WiunNPLnGqc3Q Wt2OJQ1HD74fYKfamJ935sjXy9BpgYNqPEYLyTg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: =?utf-8?q?APXvYqyeyFzLHfjLq4mMMpjuiaff/cfiFIkwPFs4zosB?= =?utf-8?q?NxftkDknmzi6U88n6CbXTc7KDjvegt9jON3imzSltKjyhDg=3D?= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:419a:: with SMTP id z26mr52248505lfh.21.1564410170008; Mon, 29 Jul 2019 07:22:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <02e1ef466ed14eb59b5e3b46394159c6@emea-msx-1.emea.turck.info> In-Reply-To: <02e1ef466ed14eb59b5e3b46394159c6@emea-msx-1.emea.turck.info> From: PICCORO McKAY Lenz Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:22:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trademarks and redistribution To: "Daniels, Hans-Joachim" Cc: "~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org" <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007766b6058ed2a0d3" --0000000000007766b6058ed2a0d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i can see a part that makes sense but seems may have some ambiguity: *"You can redistribute Ubuntu, but only where there has been no modification to it."* for alpine could be* "you can redistribute it and marks as modified ... to reflect it"* And that can be aplly to alpine too: *"Ubuntu is an aggregate work; this policy does not modify or reduce rights granted under licences which apply to specific works in Ubuntu."* also about: > Otherwise you must remove and replace the Trademarks and will need to recompile the source code to create your own binaries. apine its a trademark ? Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO) http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com El lun., 29 de jul. de 2019 a la(s) 05:09, Daniels, Hans-Joachim ( Hans-Joachim.Daniels@turck.com) escribi=C3=B3: > Hello, > how does Alpine Linux officially treat the distribution of modified > binaries (e.g. Docker Images) with respect to trademarks? > > Ubuntu for example explicitly says on > https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy > > > Any redistribution of modified versions of Ubuntu must be approved, ... > > Otherwise you must remove and replace the Trademarks and will need to > recompile the source code to create your own binaries. > > There are lots of Alpine Linux based Docker images out there, so I'd > assume Alpine is OK with that, but I can't find any official statement > regarding the use of the Alpine Linux trademarks for binary redistributio= ns. > > Thanks for clarification, > Hans-Joachim > > ________________________________ > > > Turck Electronics GmbH | Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer, Managing Director: He= rmann > Schwagmann, Guido Frohnhaus | Sitz, Registered Office: Detmold | > Registergericht, Register Court: Amtsgericht Lemgo HRB 4921 > > Wichtiger Hinweis: Diese E-Mail enth=C3=A4lt Betriebs- oder > Gesch=C3=A4ftsgeheimnisse, rechtlich gesch=C3=BCtzte oder sonstige vertra= uliche > Informationen und ist ausschlie=C3=9Flich f=C3=BCr den Empf=C3=A4nger bes= timmt. 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i = can see a part that makes sense but seems may have some ambiguity:

<= i>"You can redistribute Ubuntu, but only where there has been no modif= ication to it."=C2=A0

for alpine could be "you can= redistribute it and marks as modified ... to reflect it"

<= /div>
And that can be aplly to alpine too:
"Ubuntu is an aggregate work; this policy does not modify or redu= ce=20 rights granted under licences which apply to specific works in Ubuntu."= ;

also about:

> Otherwise you must r= emove and replace the Trademarks and will need=20 to recompile the source code to create your own binaries.

apine its a trademark ?



Lenz McK= AY Gerardo (PICCORO)


El lun., 29 de jul. de 2019 a la(s) 05:09, Da= niels, Hans-Joachim (Hans= -Joachim.Daniels@turck.com) escribi=C3=B3:
Hello,
how does Alpine Linux officially treat the distribution of modified binarie= s (e.g. Docker Images) with respect to trademarks?

Ubuntu for example explicitly says on https://u= buntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy

> Any redistribution of modified versions of Ubuntu must be approved, ..= .
> Otherwise you must remove and replace the Trademarks and will need to = recompile the source code to create your own binaries.

There are lots of Alpine Linux based Docker images out there, so I'd as= sume Alpine is OK with that, but I can't find any official statement re= garding the use of the Alpine Linux trademarks for binary redistributions.<= br>
Thanks for clarification,
Hans-Joachim

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