Received: from mx009.vodafonemail.xion.oxcs.net (mx009.vodafonemail.xion.oxcs.net [153.92.174.39]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D68F3781A99 for ; Fri, 8 May 2020 16:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vsmx002.vodafonemail.xion.oxcs.net (unknown [192.168.75.192]) by mta-6-out.mta.xion.oxcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C2B603FD3; Fri, 8 May 2020 16:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from app-38.app.xion.oxcs.net (app-38.app.xion.oxcs.net [10.10.1.38]) by mta-6-out.mta.xion.oxcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8F634603EF1; Fri, 8 May 2020 16:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 18:47:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Al Pi To: PICCORO McKAY Lenz , alpine-user Message-ID: <1906580709.96391.1588956432516@mail.vodafone.de> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: lack of alpine policy of development tools, cuse lack of time for new collaborations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.8.4-Rev68 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-VADE-STATUS: LEGIT Hello, this seems like a nice documentation writing stance, to keep in mind: (by a positive documentation example) https://mxmanuals.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/user_manual_mx16/mxum.html#toc-Subsection-1.2 PICCORO McKAY Lenz hat am 8. Mai 2020 um 14:29 geschrieben: >> you could take a look at the `/usr/bin/newapkbuild` >> script for now and search for `cmake` if developer put > minimal documentation, rest of people can contribute > more and enhanced that documentation.. but without any tips. > we can not doing nothing more serious Not sure, but I think packagers may better be familiar with make stuff, so easily get the details from the source. Seems like a "less (but organized) is more" thing. When it comes to documentation for users, mixing different things side by side together on wiki pages seems also hard to maintain, as it is to read, with redundancy even worse. That may be why organized sections that are kept short, and separate, as in the mxmanual example above are so well browseable (in the manual-browser preinstalled on the systems!, that havs a table of contents navigation on the left side), in whichever context that's needed by the reader. I find the alpine "Install" page organization has improved, but I'm not sure if some of the further things are still relevant. For example, if setting up apk cache is suggested automatically, by setup-alpine if a device is found? With a good structure, that resembles the scripts and tools, documenting changes could possibly be a simple thing for devs to check/update/remove. (Even generating a changelog from taged wiki edits maybe?) Maybe the wiki could also show a TOC on a side bar, for faster navigation. Kind Regards, -Al