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From: Natanael Copa <ncopa@alpinelinux.org>
To: PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>
Cc: alpine-user <alpine-user@lists.alpinelinux.org>
Subject: Re: TDE desktop added support for muslc.. able to build in alpine
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On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:44:05 -0400
PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com> wrote:

> El mar., 21 de ene. de 2020 a la(s) 19:51, Ariadne Conill (
> ariadne@dereferenced.org) escribi=F3:
>=20
> > I mean: why don't you take Alpine and build a desktop distribution
> > on top of it?
> > =20
> still too much work..=20

It is equally much work for us.

> i try to make this more easyle.. and if you only are
> all the alpine staff seem rest of the mail sais only one thing.. alpine
> only works good for dockers and embebed systems?

It works good for what *you* make of it. We build the building blocks
for you so you have a simple small base to build *your* stuff on top of
it so you can reach your goals.

We have already done at least 80% of the work for you to build a
desktop distro. We provide you with:

- musl based toolchain
- kernel
- xorg build
- gtk/qt and other librariesi
- various programming languages (python, ruby, perl, go, rust...)
- web browsers

We offer you help with reviewing patches for TDE packages and may even
help you maintain those.

If you want build a desktop oriented distro based on TDE and alpine,
we'd be happy to support you in any reasonable way. But we will not do
it for you just because you demand it or insult us.

> too simple are less easy and more work to more complex solutions..
>=20
> i remenber starting point.. "too simple" was the alpine reasons to make a
> new distribution from LEAF .. here comes. and now "too simple" are the sa=
me
> reason to not make some kind of evolution? incredible!

If you have different goals than Alpine then maybe Alpine is not the
right tool for you. There are plenty of other more desktop focused
distros out there, so I recommend that you use that instead.

There is a list of candidates on the TDE site.

https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/LiveCDs


-nc