Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 19:20:32 +0100
From: tlaronde@polynum.com
To: Paul Zillmann <p.zillmann@h6g.de>
Cc: ~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org
Subject: Re: Fluxbox: AltGr not working (azerty keyboard)
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Hello Paul,

On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 06:52:30PM +0100, Paul Zillmann wrote:
> Hello Thierry,
> 
> I have some issues understanding your problem.
> 
> Is your issues that some characters in the linked emulator won't work, is
> the problem specific to your kerTeX software?

Not with kerTeX but with input from the keyboard in the emulator. As
long as I use an US QWERTY keyboard mapping everything is fine, if I
select, from the Fluxbox menu a "french" mapping, all the characters
accessed composing via AltRight key do not work: I get the normal
character associated with the key; if I use shift+AltRight, the shifted;
and never the character accessed by AltRight+key.

> Besides that I was unable to locate kerTeX in the Apline repositories.
> 

kerTeX is not packaged: it compiles and installs to almost every OS
(Alpine included) using its own framework (Plan9, *BSD, Linuces, MacOSX,
Windows with a POSIX subsystem for now, but "native" soon. It's libre
software under a BSD like licence:

http://kertex.kergis.com/

(for the ones who want to try just download the get_mk_install.sh and
run it---caveats you need a true ed(1) and not the one from Busybox that
is sed masquerading as ed(1)).

> Anyway I've tried the emulator - Alpine 3.12 X Window - changed the keyboard
> settings to German.
> I've opened a terminal and a text editor - both took pipes and other
> characters accessed by the AltGr key.
> I'm working with a native German keyboard (QWERTZ) under Manjaro Linux.
> 
> I've tried both Firefox 82.0.2 and Chromium 86.0.4240.111 and both worked
> fine.

> I'll check on a Windows machine soon.
> 
> Can you describe your test-scenario for us?
> What OS are you using, which browser, what's your native keyboard layout -
> am I testing this right or wrong?
> 

I'm on NetBSD/amd64 with Firefox 71.0 and vanilla Xorg with twm and
that's all.

I have a french azerty pc105 keyboard, USB connected.

Firefox gets the correct keys. But the emulator windows not (indeed, the
layers are so numerous that the problem could indeed be in the 
javascript engine and not in the "final" alpine).

Thank you for your help!

> 
> Am 05.11.20 um 16:52 schrieb tlaronde@polynum.com:
> >Hello,
> >
> >Fabrice Bellard has developed an emulator in JavaScript, and it is now
> >possible to have, in a browser, Alpine/i586 running. See:
> >
> >https://bellard.org/jslinux/
> >
> >I'm the developper of KerTeX, a TeX and al. distribution and I'd like
> >to let people try it without installing, thus on Alpine/i586 in
> >JSLinux, the X11 version (there is also a console only version).
> >
> >No problem with kerTeX: it works.
> >
> >The problem is for non QWERTY users. If I switch the keyboard (right
> >click menu -> keyboard mapping-> french), all is OK except all the
> >letters that are accessed with AltGr---and Alt and AltGr simply don't
> >work (preventing from using backslash or pipe, and this is quite a
> >problem).
> >
> >There is no problem with console only (another choice with Alpine Linux
> >on the page above).
> >
> >I have searched the Internet about this. There are quite a lot of
> >similar issues (not only with Alpine or Fluxbox) but no real solution. I
> >have tried several "solutions" but the result is the same, or worse.
> >
> >Does somebody have any clue?
> >
> >TIA

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        Thierry Laronde <tlaronde +AT+ polynum +dot+ com>
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