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From: Ariadne Conill <ariadne@dereferenced.org>
To: alpine-user <alpine-user@lists.alpinelinux.org>, ~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org
Cc: PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: why the wiki page promotes usage of sudo and also use grups
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:35:27 -0600
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Hello,

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:43:33 AM MDT PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote:
> in the wiki page
> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Creating_an_Alpine_package
> it said that use that "thing" of sudo.. so why the complication about
> groups?

Groups and package users have to be created in the build environment in order 
to ensure that the generated package has correct UIDs and GIDs when installed 
on the target.  This is because apk-tools needs to know which files will belong 
to the new user/group.

> so this is official or is forced to? I mean can we avoid.. cos i try to
> package GAMBAS and seems this is irresponsible to promote a thing that is a
> crap in security!
> 
> sudo is a horrible creature that makes the groups means nothing..

abuild has not used sudo for a very long time.

Ariadne