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From: Gilbert <gnuplus@atomicmail.io>
To: Natanael Copa <ncopa@alpinelinux.org>
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Subject: Re: Alpine 'virt' iso offline and VM choice
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2026 07:34:21 +0000
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>=C2=A0The reasoning is that in most cases you would need to get =
*something*
> from internet anyway, so then we can keep the alpine-virt =
release image
> minimal by requiring that everything is downloaded from =
internet.


I see.
I don't like=C2=A0it, because I think saving some =
megabytes on the iso size provides
little value.
And=C2=A0on the other hand=
 it annoys people like me who prefer to install offline.
I hope you reconsider it.
But thanks for the response and have a nice day!
On Mon, Aug 17, 2026 at 1:12 PM, Natanael Copa
<> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 08:26:31 +0000
> Gilbert <gnuplus@atomicmail.io> =
wrote:
>=20
> > I want to install Alpine in a VM for a local server.
> >
> > I noticed that the 'virt' iso can't be installed on disk without =
downloading
> > some packages from the internet. That's annoying. What's =
the rationale
> behind
> > that?
>=20
> The reasoning is that in most cases=
 you would need to get *something*
> from internet anyway, so then we can =
keep the alpine-virt release image
> minimal by requiring that everything =
is downloaded from internet.
>=20
> > If I used the 'extended' iso instead,=
 would I be missing something
> > compared to 'virt'?
> > It says the 'virt' iso is "optimized for virtual systems", so I
> > wonder if it has an advantage in terms of performance or resource
> > usage.
>=20
> You get a bigger kernel with support for a lot more, that=
 you probably
> don need in a VM. (sound drivers, wifi drivers, drivers for=
 bare-metal
> etc...)
>=20
> Another option could be to use the cloud =
images, where you get a
> pre-installed disk image.
>=20
> -nc
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<div id=3D"atomic-mail-body"><div>&gt;&nbsp;The reasoning is that in most =
cases you would need to get *something*<br>&gt; from internet anyway, so =
then we can keep the alpine-virt release image<br>&gt; minimal by requiring=
 that everything is downloaded from internet.</div><div><br></div><div>I =
see.</div><div>I don't like&nbsp;it, because I think saving some megabytes =
on the iso size provides little value.</div><div>And&nbsp;on the other hand=
 it annoys people like me who prefer to install offline.</div><div>I hope =
you reconsider it.</div><div>But thanks for the response and have a nice =
day!</div></div> <div id=3D"atomic-mail-body"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
      <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
        On Mon, Aug 17, 2026 =
at 1:12 PM, Natanael Copa<br>
        &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ncopa@alpinelin=
ux.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer">ncopa@alpinelinux.=
org</a>&gt;
         wrote:
      </div>
      <blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">
          <p>On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 08:26:31 =
+0000<br>Gilbert &lt;gnuplus@atomicmail.io&gt; wrote:</p><p>&gt; I want to =
install Alpine in a VM for a local server.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I noticed that =
the 'virt' iso can't be installed on disk without downloading<br>&gt; some =
packages from the internet. That's annoying. What's the rationale =
behind<br>&gt; that?</p><p>The reasoning is that in most cases you would =
need to get *something*<br>from internet anyway, so then we can keep the =
alpine-virt release image<br>minimal by requiring that everything is =
downloaded from internet.</p><p>&gt; If I used the 'extended' iso instead, =
would I be missing something<br>&gt; compared to 'virt'?<br>&gt; It says =
the 'virt' iso is "optimized for virtual systems", so I<br>&gt; wonder if =
it has an advantage in terms of performance or resource<br>&gt; usage.=
</p><p>You get a bigger kernel with support for a lot more, that you =
probably<br>don need in a VM. (sound drivers, wifi drivers, drivers for =
bare-metal<br>etc...)</p><p>Another option could be to use the cloud images=
, where you get a<br>pre-installed disk image.</p><p>-nc</p>
        </div>
       =20
      </blockquote>
    </div></div>
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