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CodVNvZVOS2IL1KgkRh6d0656TBxSiHTtMM+3EAeDRaIeA6yhEoSnyF5GrU5Kbw3PDtJCwtbn Ykx81Hvd2y265U5aSzXD0GrlRdDJAbTI/ziumCsCjCxHQL8v4VF9JU4i9jUP17chIFTTfbpDE LDxFCwEpHNBev8qLDnZ8J87o0+SCIJ06Z8dqWnP4Uhajc54ODSPFerhGOZ7Bn0baSx4on4JsJ FOtO3+kMyk7vNx1CHxCuW/73e93Jr7rnQxrrw6ceJ6VW8hKbHxiUZ/2Q2Gc8Lh9B9fzsRvYcB tQ6bjJ26j9i0vcKebmK7wh2mU+g/yKj/mUzOa3j9zfQxei7qrLwrY6qyzwPlbu0nuO4ZZEs3X lktMO2HzLZ+9OIdC+0krCMJCQ7CMdIQR+pvOCpotypWKJtjzsLp5D+1VACi+FWm6VM This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------agv4EI0f0WoxlIksCBeUZbkr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralf Mardorf wrote: > For me, as someone who uses the command line instead of file managers > and who doesn=E2=80=99t use a desktop environment at all (just a window = manager) > regardless of what Linux or FreeeBSD based BSD I run, I don=E2=80=99t se= e the > point of installing a bloated desktop environment on top of a system > based on BusyBox and Musl, nor do I see how it ends up being any lighter > than any user-friendly major distro. > I think you should try a setup like the one I described and see for=20 yourself that KDE is not as "bloated" as you might remember it. Yes, I=20 agree: it used to be a heavy load for a PC and even more so for=20 notebooks when it was created, but those days are gone! KDE/Plasma today= =20 is a real pleasure to use and it works very well on my ex-Chromebook.=20 Right now I'm writing this message on it, running KDE as my desktop,=20 Betterbird as my MUA, Firefox for surfing, and I really can't complain=20 about performance. Of course, I would not even try to do video editing or play a modern=20 game on it, that is understood. But for office tasks, internet surfing,=20 watching videos, or running remote diagnostics and stuff like that, it's= =20 perfect. It's not too heavy, it's not too big, it gives me up to 10=20 hours of battery usage, and I can charge it at any USB port I can find. Furthermore, PostmarketOS was/is the only Linux distribution I can find=20 that works on my "old" Lenovo, and I am very happy with it. Besides: POS= =20 offer different kinds of user interfaces, not just KDE, and they all are= =20 adjusted to small systems like phones and tablets. Sorry for getting a bit off-topic, but I felt the urge to mention this,=20 because I think PostmarketOS deserve much more public attention as they do= . Happy Easter! Wolfgang --------------agv4EI0f0WoxlIksCBeUZbkr Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ralf Mardorf wrote:

For me, as someone who uses t=
he command line instead of file managers
and who doesn=E2=80=99t use a desktop environment at all (just a window ma=
nager)
regardless of what Linux or FreeeBSD based BSD I run, I don=E2=80=99t see =
the
point of installing a bloated desktop environment on top of a system
based on BusyBox and Musl, nor do I see how it ends up being any lighter
than any user-friendly major distro.


I think you should try a setup like the one I described and see for yourself that KDE is not as "bloated" as you might remember it. Yes, I agree: it used to be a heavy load for a PC and even more so for notebooks when it was created, but those days are gone! KDE/Plasma today is a real pleasure to use and it works very well on my ex-Chromebook. Right now I'm writing this message on it, running KDE as my desktop, Betterbird as my MUA, Firefox for surfing, and I really can't complain about performance.=C2=A0

Of course, I would not even try to do video editing or play a modern game on it, that is understood. But for office tasks, internet surfing, watching videos, or running remote diagnostics and stuff like that, it's perfect. It's not too heavy, it's not too big, it gives me up to 10 hours of battery usage, and I can charge it at any USB port I can find.=C2=A0

Furthermore, PostmarketOS was/is the only Linux distribution I can find that works on my "old" Lenovo, and I am very happy with it. Besides: POS offer different kinds of user interfaces, not just KDE, and they all are adjusted to small systems like phones and tablets.
Sorry for getting a bit off-topic, but I felt the urge to mention this, because I think PostmarketOS deserve much more public attention as they do.

Happy Easter!
Wolfgang


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