Received: from mail-yb1-xb34.google.com (mail-yb1-xb34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b34]) by gbr-app-1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73C9A224078 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Mon, 11 Nov 2024 20:36:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yb1-xb34.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e290e857d56so4634151276.1 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:36:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1731357367; x=1731962167; darn=lists.alpinelinux.org; h=to:in-reply-to:cc:references:message-id:date:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=hLaDVrYbSytF24r9SY1BZDxY9Cbk01Uce8hFSKdUjSI=; b=GQ+2rQ17OKnUInT//qmkTEMXKoM8S4tAd42K5VQBLvXgpr6NrBuvJxqhZtrEYsHkZV Vw68Eks83qtwNMzMYeWcDLmj61Lg4fy07yBain8vB1NVD5Vz9V+wpFYNCR+f5XKYax7Y vmMrUKjrc2B8d8AOc4GvnJM+SamgvwMMheJf5UZ1jyWzAQG0WXDPsRdjoks9x1GCeuKZ HcjZqnMDJRs9OxFuq6PPq1jjRug51qmf/UcLAkTD1n7LOjwlgld/YfQvt/zig4gbkiEC DMZ4sv0OxBGiuzfz/XEdZUhTeenM1mRYeVr8IAVA/F4ASbX1Dnfob9CK8FXugIem3+ko F+Eg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1731357367; x=1731962167; h=to:in-reply-to:cc:references:message-id:date:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=hLaDVrYbSytF24r9SY1BZDxY9Cbk01Uce8hFSKdUjSI=; b=OLdlP2+wc7YAfpqhn7h7JfSJyvUvbIJzMuEJxyVJLJji0z2si8/Tmr7rgkcyNflyVr KeAs9516Sn2YjTBrCPzplkkWHsvkegut+0Suyy6m9GjQ+Z9oEYscXfmvAFw6RUGTy2o5 fE7cNQAo8d6QBNHKAPiv1z8PKQFxuTZqc2u6Qua0AxL1r413XdBzb6EWOQ68PiD+vck2 iRWZ5SBOBaWgD3oWi49lahF3wDTSQm0e67Wv0rihTZLBD7eZn+1ckJ+1+ZI5121QC7M9 Lx1s+ODP+BRYwZNgplmIxJMUxNuiJbIZQp5ykmGecLnT++OuY4A4XTUkVpZnAUrTZTmU LwTw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzRmLFGy6gQuD89apWf3v2zBSMsZhPv8ONX6IlNhmkLLpR5+9cz /Msmj12HGkLcHe8vugf0927GN1RRD2m2Js+n2Em0nG8W/i6N4R83Kc1i7lAH X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGkhkKt7nGncVKxcOEnrzAnziaIwAlPThYxSQV9o1iOejJtAVDqAT25YxJO7AEwgJJ/bJL3ew== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:72b:b0:e26:29dc:8dd2 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e337f820cc6mr14356055276.6.1731357367045; Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (70-250-118-222.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net. [70.250.118.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 3f1490d57ef6-e336ef4af48sm2417870276.33.2024.11.11.12.36.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:36:06 -0800 (PST) From: Isaac Beckett X-Google-Original-From: Isaac Beckett Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: A "diskless" Xen dom0 entirely in the ESP Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:36:05 -0500 Message-Id: References: <705935e6-974b-4919-9cdd-86ee3ce34daa@pobox.com> Cc: ~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org In-Reply-To: <705935e6-974b-4919-9cdd-86ee3ce34daa@pobox.com> To: rptb1+alpine@pobox.com X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (19H386) > On Nov 11, 2024, at 2:36 PM, rptb1+alpine@pobox.com wrote: >=20 > Three reasons: >=20 > 1. To subvert and virtualize an existing system without modifying it (very= much). There are many reasons that might be useful, but I'm experimenting w= ith PCI passthrough on a Steam Deck, running SteamOS as a domU. I *could* o= f course repartition the Steam Deck's SSD and make space for a traditional p= artition, or boot from an external device, but then I started thinking what a= flexible tool this might be, and how it could be handy to have always there= on a portable system. >=20 > 2. To learn in detail about Alpine and its boot process. >=20 > 3. Because it would be a neat trick. >=20 > Unfortunately, there's probably not enough room in the Steam Deck's defaul= t ESP. >=20 > It probably doesn't have broad application. >=20 > I might be able to improve some of the documentation on the way through. You might be able to shave off more space from the install by customizing th= e packages installed (remove stuff you don=E2=80=99t need) or by using e.g. b= uildroot to build an even smaller rootfs.=