Yesterday I have installed alpine (extended x86_64) on a key.
I used this guide
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_a_Bootable_USB , so the
result must be a "diskless-mode".
After that I started setup-alpine and configured the distro (leaving
the setup-disk on "none", setup-lbu on "usb" and setup-apkcache on
"/media/usb/cache").
I saved the settings with "lbu ci" and found that they were preserved
on restart.
Next thing I know, I tried to follow this other guide to set a wm:
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/XFCE_Setup
So I started "setup-xorg-base", enable communy repo and update, and
install xfce4 and xf86-video-intel (pc is a intel atom with integrated
graphic card).
To be sure I have also installed mesa-dri-intel
I did another commit and so I tried to start the wm with "startx".
Xfce is very slow to start (it loads one piece at times and many of
the icons are not seen), but the main problem is that I see artifacts
(such as small disturbances of the graphics) and often I see the
pointer in multiple positions simultaneously and when I move it, the
pointer leaves a track that disappears later.
All these problems disappear when the composite manager of xfce is
deactivated (in setting > tweaks > composite) so I thought it was a
problem with graphics acceleration.
I tried an ubuntu studio live on the same PC with xfce and composite
active without the same problem. The driver used seems to be the same
in both distros (i915.ko).
If I understand correctly, this is the saying with the modules
installed by xorg "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/".
In alpine there are only 2 modules inside this dir: intel_drv.so
modesetting_drv.so
In ubuntu studio a little more (but i think a lot of this is not
usefull): amdgpu_drv.so fbdev_drv.so modesetting_drv.so qxl_drv.so
vesa_drv.so ati_drv.so intel_drv.so nouveau_drv.so radeon_drv.so
vmware_drv.so
I could not start Xorg -configure from ubuntu studio, but I make one
from alpine: http://dpaste.com/38KBTA1
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deactivate the new kms and restart . that0s enought
Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com
El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 12:01, Genoperno Translucente (
fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:
> Yesterday I have installed alpine (extended x86_64) on a key.> I used this guide> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_a_Bootable_USB , so the> result must be a "diskless-mode".> After that I started setup-alpine and configured the distro (leaving> the setup-disk on "none", setup-lbu on "usb" and setup-apkcache on> "/media/usb/cache").> I saved the settings with "lbu ci" and found that they were preserved> on restart.> Next thing I know, I tried to follow this other guide to set a wm:> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/XFCE_Setup> So I started "setup-xorg-base", enable communy repo and update, and> install xfce4 and xf86-video-intel (pc is a intel atom with integrated> graphic card).> To be sure I have also installed mesa-dri-intel> I did another commit and so I tried to start the wm with "startx".>> Xfce is very slow to start (it loads one piece at times and many of> the icons are not seen), but the main problem is that I see artifacts> (such as small disturbances of the graphics) and often I see the> pointer in multiple positions simultaneously and when I move it, the> pointer leaves a track that disappears later.> All these problems disappear when the composite manager of xfce is> deactivated (in setting > tweaks > composite) so I thought it was a> problem with graphics acceleration.>> I tried an ubuntu studio live on the same PC with xfce and composite> active without the same problem. The driver used seems to be the same> in both distros (i915.ko).> If I understand correctly, this is the saying with the modules> installed by xorg "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/".> In alpine there are only 2 modules inside this dir: intel_drv.so> modesetting_drv.so> In ubuntu studio a little more (but i think a lot of this is not> usefull): amdgpu_drv.so fbdev_drv.so modesetting_drv.so qxl_drv.so> vesa_drv.so ati_drv.so intel_drv.so nouveau_drv.so radeon_drv.so> vmware_drv.so>> I could not start Xorg -configure from ubuntu studio, but I make one> from alpine: http://dpaste.com/38KBTA1>>> ---> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org> --->>
currently linux are full of stupid windowsers develpers, updates and
changes and updates..
yeah, the "featured" mode setting is a stupid crap now.. with the xcuse of
new this, new that, bullshit
ok, to the right soluton, i915 and intel_agp drivers mus be added to the
boot, as you can see
at alpine start "modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage" well, added with
a comma the
wanted need modules i915 and intel_agp
now what we have: nomodeset=0 will make work the intel driver as a normal
vesa driver but
with more little things, so also along with that we have that all versions
since 2.15
of the Intel-driver seems only support KMS .. yeah more crap here!
yeah that's the problem.. that's the reason why i used older versions of
linux.. i recommended
use older alpine version.. in the classmate intel pc i used alpine 3.6 or
3.7 or debian only
sorry and i calculed that nathaniel does not have other solution right?,
El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 17:58, Genoperno Translucente (
fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:
> Thanks for the answer, you warn me that I see some graphical glitches> also from the shell, so I think you've found the right problem.> Not knowing what this kms is I searched on the net and found this> page:> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting#Disabling_modesetting> My syslinux already was set by default the nomodeset, but that page> says that I must also set i915.modeset=0, and so I tried:> http://dpaste.com/0JR7GY4>> However, when I run startx with that option setted in the syslinux,> the GUI doesn't even start and Xorg returns this> error:http://dpaste.com/0K6ZDRB (I captured this error having also> removed nomodeset and only with i915.modeset=0 but I have the same> problemi)> Xorg -configure does not even work.>>>> 2019-03-14 17:33 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>:> > deactivate the new kms and restart . that0s enought> > Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)> > http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com> >> >> > El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 12:01, Genoperno Translucente (> > fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:> >> >> Yesterday I have installed alpine (extended x86_64) on a key.> >> I used this guide> >> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_a_Bootable_USB , so the> >> result must be a "diskless-mode".> >> After that I started setup-alpine and configured the distro (leaving> >> the setup-disk on "none", setup-lbu on "usb" and setup-apkcache on> >> "/media/usb/cache").> >> I saved the settings with "lbu ci" and found that they were preserved> >> on restart.> >> Next thing I know, I tried to follow this other guide to set a wm:> >> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/XFCE_Setup> >> So I started "setup-xorg-base", enable communy repo and update, and> >> install xfce4 and xf86-video-intel (pc is a intel atom with integrated> >> graphic card).> >> To be sure I have also installed mesa-dri-intel> >> I did another commit and so I tried to start the wm with "startx".> >>> >> Xfce is very slow to start (it loads one piece at times and many of> >> the icons are not seen), but the main problem is that I see artifacts> >> (such as small disturbances of the graphics) and often I see the> >> pointer in multiple positions simultaneously and when I move it, the> >> pointer leaves a track that disappears later.> >> All these problems disappear when the composite manager of xfce is> >> deactivated (in setting > tweaks > composite) so I thought it was a> >> problem with graphics acceleration.> >>> >> I tried an ubuntu studio live on the same PC with xfce and composite> >> active without the same problem. The driver used seems to be the same> >> in both distros (i915.ko).> >> If I understand correctly, this is the saying with the modules> >> installed by xorg "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/".> >> In alpine there are only 2 modules inside this dir: intel_drv.so> >> modesetting_drv.so> >> In ubuntu studio a little more (but i think a lot of this is not> >> usefull): amdgpu_drv.so fbdev_drv.so modesetting_drv.so qxl_drv.so> >> vesa_drv.so ati_drv.so intel_drv.so nouveau_drv.so radeon_drv.so> >> vmware_drv.so> >>> >> I could not start Xorg -configure from ubuntu studio, but I make one> >> from alpine: http://dpaste.com/38KBTA1> >>> >>> >> ---> >> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> ---> >>> >>> >>>> ---> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org> --->>
Thanks for the answer, you warn me that I see some graphical glitches
also from the shell, so I think you've found the right problem.
Not knowing what this kms is I searched on the net and found this
page: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting#Disabling_modesetting
My syslinux already was set by default the nomodeset, but that page
says that I must also set i915.modeset=0, and so I tried:
http://dpaste.com/0JR7GY4
However, when I run startx with that option setted in the syslinux,
the GUI doesn't even start and Xorg returns this
error:http://dpaste.com/0K6ZDRB (I captured this error having also
removed nomodeset and only with i915.modeset=0 but I have the same
problemi)
Xorg -configure does not even work.
2019-03-14 17:33 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>:
> deactivate the new kms and restart . that0s enought> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com>>> El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 12:01, Genoperno Translucente (> fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:>>> Yesterday I have installed alpine (extended x86_64) on a key.>> I used this guide>> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_a_Bootable_USB , so the>> result must be a "diskless-mode".>> After that I started setup-alpine and configured the distro (leaving>> the setup-disk on "none", setup-lbu on "usb" and setup-apkcache on>> "/media/usb/cache").>> I saved the settings with "lbu ci" and found that they were preserved>> on restart.>> Next thing I know, I tried to follow this other guide to set a wm:>> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/XFCE_Setup>> So I started "setup-xorg-base", enable communy repo and update, and>> install xfce4 and xf86-video-intel (pc is a intel atom with integrated>> graphic card).>> To be sure I have also installed mesa-dri-intel>> I did another commit and so I tried to start the wm with "startx".>>>> Xfce is very slow to start (it loads one piece at times and many of>> the icons are not seen), but the main problem is that I see artifacts>> (such as small disturbances of the graphics) and often I see the>> pointer in multiple positions simultaneously and when I move it, the>> pointer leaves a track that disappears later.>> All these problems disappear when the composite manager of xfce is>> deactivated (in setting > tweaks > composite) so I thought it was a>> problem with graphics acceleration.>>>> I tried an ubuntu studio live on the same PC with xfce and composite>> active without the same problem. The driver used seems to be the same>> in both distros (i915.ko).>> If I understand correctly, this is the saying with the modules>> installed by xorg "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/".>> In alpine there are only 2 modules inside this dir: intel_drv.so>> modesetting_drv.so>> In ubuntu studio a little more (but i think a lot of this is not>> usefull): amdgpu_drv.so fbdev_drv.so modesetting_drv.so qxl_drv.so>> vesa_drv.so ati_drv.so intel_drv.so nouveau_drv.so radeon_drv.so>> vmware_drv.so>>>> I could not start Xorg -configure from ubuntu studio, but I make one>> from alpine: http://dpaste.com/38KBTA1>>>>>> --->> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org>> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org>> --->>>>>
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Maybe I misunderstood what you advised me to do in your last message,
I tried to modify the last line of the syslinux but without having
positive results:
APPEND modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage,i915,intel_agp quiet
nomodeset i915.modeset=0
Another strange thing is that it seemed to me that while the i915
module is loaded, intel_agp no and I had to use modprobe.
However the error is always the same, with your previous message did
you mean that there was no solution unless there was an idea from
nathaniel?
2019-03-15 1:03 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>:
> currently linux are full of stupid windowsers develpers, updates and> changes and updates..>> yeah, the "featured" mode setting is a stupid crap now.. with the xcuse of> new this, new that, bullshit>> ok, to the right soluton, i915 and intel_agp drivers mus be added to the> boot, as you can see> at alpine start "modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage" well, added with> a comma the> wanted need modules i915 and intel_agp>> now what we have: nomodeset=0 will make work the intel driver as a normal> vesa driver but> with more little things, so also along with that we have that all versions> since 2.15> of the Intel-driver seems only support KMS .. yeah more crap here!>> yeah that's the problem.. that's the reason why i used older versions of> linux.. i recommended> use older alpine version.. in the classmate intel pc i used alpine 3.6 or> 3.7 or debian only>> sorry and i calculed that nathaniel does not have other solution right?,>> El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 17:58, Genoperno Translucente (> fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:>>> Thanks for the answer, you warn me that I see some graphical glitches>> also from the shell, so I think you've found the right problem.>> Not knowing what this kms is I searched on the net and found this>> page:>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting#Disabling_modesetting>> My syslinux already was set by default the nomodeset, but that page>> says that I must also set i915.modeset=0, and so I tried:>> http://dpaste.com/0JR7GY4>>>> However, when I run startx with that option setted in the syslinux,>> the GUI doesn't even start and Xorg returns this>> error:http://dpaste.com/0K6ZDRB (I captured this error having also>> removed nomodeset and only with i915.modeset=0 but I have the same>> problemi)>> Xorg -configure does not even work.>>>>>>>> 2019-03-14 17:33 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>:>> > deactivate the new kms and restart . that0s enought>> > Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)>> > http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com>> >>> >>> > El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 12:01, Genoperno Translucente (>> > fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:>> >>> >> Yesterday I have installed alpine (extended x86_64) on a key.>> >> I used this guide>> >> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_a_Bootable_USB , so the>> >> result must be a "diskless-mode".>> >> After that I started setup-alpine and configured the distro (leaving>> >> the setup-disk on "none", setup-lbu on "usb" and setup-apkcache on>> >> "/media/usb/cache").>> >> I saved the settings with "lbu ci" and found that they were preserved>> >> on restart.>> >> Next thing I know, I tried to follow this other guide to set a wm:>> >> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/XFCE_Setup>> >> So I started "setup-xorg-base", enable communy repo and update, and>> >> install xfce4 and xf86-video-intel (pc is a intel atom with integrated>> >> graphic card).>> >> To be sure I have also installed mesa-dri-intel>> >> I did another commit and so I tried to start the wm with "startx".>> >>>> >> Xfce is very slow to start (it loads one piece at times and many of>> >> the icons are not seen), but the main problem is that I see artifacts>> >> (such as small disturbances of the graphics) and often I see the>> >> pointer in multiple positions simultaneously and when I move it, the>> >> pointer leaves a track that disappears later.>> >> All these problems disappear when the composite manager of xfce is>> >> deactivated (in setting > tweaks > composite) so I thought it was a>> >> problem with graphics acceleration.>> >>>> >> I tried an ubuntu studio live on the same PC with xfce and composite>> >> active without the same problem. The driver used seems to be the same>> >> in both distros (i915.ko).>> >> If I understand correctly, this is the saying with the modules>> >> installed by xorg "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/".>> >> In alpine there are only 2 modules inside this dir: intel_drv.so>> >> modesetting_drv.so>> >> In ubuntu studio a little more (but i think a lot of this is not>> >> usefull): amdgpu_drv.so fbdev_drv.so modesetting_drv.so qxl_drv.so>> >> vesa_drv.so ati_drv.so intel_drv.so nouveau_drv.so radeon_drv.so>> >> vmware_drv.so>> >>>> >> I could not start Xorg -configure from ubuntu studio, but I make one>> >> from alpine: http://dpaste.com/38KBTA1>> >>>> >>>> >> --->> >> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org>> >> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org>> >> --->> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> --->> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org>> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org>> --->>>>>
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El vie., 15 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 01:49, Genoperno Translucente (
fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:
> APPEND modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage,i915,intel_agp quiet> nomodeset i915.modeset=0> Another strange thing is that it seemed to me that while the i915> module is loaded, intel_agp no and I had to use modprobe.>
in my previous message i said that if you use both .. the usage of i915 and
intel_agp are unuseless
> However the error is always the same, with your previous message did> you mean that there was no solution unless there was an idea from> nathaniel?>
WOW! ok if you use both.. you must setup manually intel xorg conf
ok let me said that i only give you tips.. not a complete how to!
just was for usage to point to a right direction!
i not have good results in my DELL R15 inspiron.. sorry.. and i very busy
to try ...
maybe it's time to give more details and open an issue at alpine bug tracker
remenber to put:
* lspci results
* hardware description (i mean kind of machine and name model)
* version of alpine and kernel usage
* xorg config if use
among others minor details...
> 2019-03-15 1:03 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>:> > currently linux are full of stupid windowsers develpers, updates and> > changes and updates..> >> > yeah, the "featured" mode setting is a stupid crap now.. with the xcuse> of> > new this, new that, bullshit> >> > ok, to the right soluton, i915 and intel_agp drivers mus be added to the> > boot, as you can see> > at alpine start "modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage" well, added> with> > a comma the> > wanted need modules i915 and intel_agp> >> > now what we have: nomodeset=0 will make work the intel driver as a normal> > vesa driver but> > with more little things, so also along with that we have that all> versions> > since 2.15> > of the Intel-driver seems only support KMS .. yeah more crap here!> >> > yeah that's the problem.. that's the reason why i used older versions of> > linux.. i recommended> > use older alpine version.. in the classmate intel pc i used alpine 3.6 or> > 3.7 or debian only> >> > sorry and i calculed that nathaniel does not have other solution right?,> >> > El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 17:58, Genoperno Translucente (> > fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:> >> >> Thanks for the answer, you warn me that I see some graphical glitches> >> also from the shell, so I think you've found the right problem.> >> Not knowing what this kms is I searched on the net and found this> >> page:> >>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting#Disabling_modesetting> >> My syslinux already was set by default the nomodeset, but that page> >> says that I must also set i915.modeset=0, and so I tried:> >> http://dpaste.com/0JR7GY4> >>> >> However, when I run startx with that option setted in the syslinux,> >> the GUI doesn't even start and Xorg returns this> >> error:http://dpaste.com/0K6ZDRB (I captured this error having also> >> removed nomodeset and only with i915.modeset=0 but I have the same> >> problemi)> >> Xorg -configure does not even work.> >>> >>> >>> >> 2019-03-14 17:33 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com> >:> >> > deactivate the new kms and restart . that0s enought> >> > Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)> >> > http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com> >> >> >> >> >> > El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 12:01, Genoperno Translucente (> >> > fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:> >> >> >> >> Yesterday I have installed alpine (extended x86_64) on a key.> >> >> I used this guide> >> >> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_a_Bootable_USB , so the> >> >> result must be a "diskless-mode".> >> >> After that I started setup-alpine and configured the distro (leaving> >> >> the setup-disk on "none", setup-lbu on "usb" and setup-apkcache on> >> >> "/media/usb/cache").> >> >> I saved the settings with "lbu ci" and found that they were preserved> >> >> on restart.> >> >> Next thing I know, I tried to follow this other guide to set a wm:> >> >> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/XFCE_Setup> >> >> So I started "setup-xorg-base", enable communy repo and update, and> >> >> install xfce4 and xf86-video-intel (pc is a intel atom with> integrated> >> >> graphic card).> >> >> To be sure I have also installed mesa-dri-intel> >> >> I did another commit and so I tried to start the wm with "startx".> >> >>> >> >> Xfce is very slow to start (it loads one piece at times and many of> >> >> the icons are not seen), but the main problem is that I see artifacts> >> >> (such as small disturbances of the graphics) and often I see the> >> >> pointer in multiple positions simultaneously and when I move it, the> >> >> pointer leaves a track that disappears later.> >> >> All these problems disappear when the composite manager of xfce is> >> >> deactivated (in setting > tweaks > composite) so I thought it was a> >> >> problem with graphics acceleration.> >> >>> >> >> I tried an ubuntu studio live on the same PC with xfce and composite> >> >> active without the same problem. The driver used seems to be the same> >> >> in both distros (i915.ko).> >> >> If I understand correctly, this is the saying with the modules> >> >> installed by xorg "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/".> >> >> In alpine there are only 2 modules inside this dir: intel_drv.so> >> >> modesetting_drv.so> >> >> In ubuntu studio a little more (but i think a lot of this is not> >> >> usefull): amdgpu_drv.so fbdev_drv.so modesetting_drv.so qxl_drv.so> >> >> vesa_drv.so ati_drv.so intel_drv.so nouveau_drv.so radeon_drv.so> >> >> vmware_drv.so> >> >>> >> >> I could not start Xorg -configure from ubuntu studio, but I make one> >> >> from alpine: http://dpaste.com/38KBTA1> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ---> >> >> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> >> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> >> ---> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> ---> >> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> ---> >>> >>> >>>> ---> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org> --->>
Okay, I wanted to do everything you recommended, but first to be sure
I wanted to do some more tests with the parameters of syslinux and I
was lucky.
The problem is the presence of the parameter "nomodeset", removing
that I have no more problem.
Since this parameter is by default in alpine syslinux, do you think I
should open a bug report anyway?
Looking for similar issue in bug tracker I saw that recently another
person had the same problem (although with an amd video card instead
of intel): https://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/10040
2019-03-15 13:48 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>:
> El vie., 15 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 01:49, Genoperno Translucente (> fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:>>> APPEND modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage,i915,intel_agp quiet>> nomodeset i915.modeset=0>> Another strange thing is that it seemed to me that while the i915>> module is loaded, intel_agp no and I had to use modprobe.>>>> in my previous message i said that if you use both .. the usage of i915 and> intel_agp are unuseless>>>> However the error is always the same, with your previous message did>> you mean that there was no solution unless there was an idea from>> nathaniel?>>>> WOW! ok if you use both.. you must setup manually intel xorg conf> ok let me said that i only give you tips.. not a complete how to!> just was for usage to point to a right direction!>> i not have good results in my DELL R15 inspiron.. sorry.. and i very busy> to try ...>> maybe it's time to give more details and open an issue at alpine bug> tracker>>> remenber to put:>> * lspci results> * hardware description (i mean kind of machine and name model)> * version of alpine and kernel usage> * xorg config if use>> among others minor details...>>>> 2019-03-15 1:03 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>:>> > currently linux are full of stupid windowsers develpers, updates and>> > changes and updates..>> >>> > yeah, the "featured" mode setting is a stupid crap now.. with the xcuse>> of>> > new this, new that, bullshit>> >>> > ok, to the right soluton, i915 and intel_agp drivers mus be added to>> > the>> > boot, as you can see>> > at alpine start "modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage" well, added>> with>> > a comma the>> > wanted need modules i915 and intel_agp>> >>> > now what we have: nomodeset=0 will make work the intel driver as a>> > normal>> > vesa driver but>> > with more little things, so also along with that we have that all>> versions>> > since 2.15>> > of the Intel-driver seems only support KMS .. yeah more crap here!>> >>> > yeah that's the problem.. that's the reason why i used older versions>> > of>> > linux.. i recommended>> > use older alpine version.. in the classmate intel pc i used alpine 3.6>> > or>> > 3.7 or debian only>> >>> > sorry and i calculed that nathaniel does not have other solution>> > right?,>> >>> > El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 17:58, Genoperno Translucente (>> > fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:>> >>> >> Thanks for the answer, you warn me that I see some graphical glitches>> >> also from the shell, so I think you've found the right problem.>> >> Not knowing what this kms is I searched on the net and found this>> >> page:>> >>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting#Disabling_modesetting>> >> My syslinux already was set by default the nomodeset, but that page>> >> says that I must also set i915.modeset=0, and so I tried:>> >> http://dpaste.com/0JR7GY4>> >>>> >> However, when I run startx with that option setted in the syslinux,>> >> the GUI doesn't even start and Xorg returns this>> >> error:http://dpaste.com/0K6ZDRB (I captured this error having also>> >> removed nomodeset and only with i915.modeset=0 but I have the same>> >> problemi)>> >> Xorg -configure does not even work.>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> 2019-03-14 17:33 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>> >:>> >> > deactivate the new kms and restart . that0s enought>> >> > Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)>> >> > http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 12:01, Genoperno Translucente (>> >> > fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:>> >> >>> >> >> Yesterday I have installed alpine (extended x86_64) on a key.>> >> >> I used this guide>> >> >> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_a_Bootable_USB , so the>> >> >> result must be a "diskless-mode".>> >> >> After that I started setup-alpine and configured the distro>> >> >> (leaving>> >> >> the setup-disk on "none", setup-lbu on "usb" and setup-apkcache on>> >> >> "/media/usb/cache").>> >> >> I saved the settings with "lbu ci" and found that they were>> >> >> preserved>> >> >> on restart.>> >> >> Next thing I know, I tried to follow this other guide to set a wm:>> >> >> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/XFCE_Setup>> >> >> So I started "setup-xorg-base", enable communy repo and update, and>> >> >> install xfce4 and xf86-video-intel (pc is a intel atom with>> integrated>> >> >> graphic card).>> >> >> To be sure I have also installed mesa-dri-intel>> >> >> I did another commit and so I tried to start the wm with "startx".>> >> >>>> >> >> Xfce is very slow to start (it loads one piece at times and many of>> >> >> the icons are not seen), but the main problem is that I see>> >> >> artifacts>> >> >> (such as small disturbances of the graphics) and often I see the>> >> >> pointer in multiple positions simultaneously and when I move it,>> >> >> the>> >> >> pointer leaves a track that disappears later.>> >> >> All these problems disappear when the composite manager of xfce is>> >> >> deactivated (in setting > tweaks > composite) so I thought it was a>> >> >> problem with graphics acceleration.>> >> >>>> >> >> I tried an ubuntu studio live on the same PC with xfce and>> >> >> composite>> >> >> active without the same problem. The driver used seems to be the>> >> >> same>> >> >> in both distros (i915.ko).>> >> >> If I understand correctly, this is the saying with the modules>> >> >> installed by xorg "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/".>> >> >> In alpine there are only 2 modules inside this dir: intel_drv.so>> >> >> modesetting_drv.so>> >> >> In ubuntu studio a little more (but i think a lot of this is not>> >> >> usefull): amdgpu_drv.so fbdev_drv.so modesetting_drv.so>> >> >> qxl_drv.so>> >> >> vesa_drv.so ati_drv.so intel_drv.so nouveau_drv.so radeon_drv.so>> >> >> vmware_drv.so>> >> >>>> >> >> I could not start Xorg -configure from ubuntu studio, but I make>> >> >> one>> >> >> from alpine: http://dpaste.com/38KBTA1>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> --->> >> >> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org>> >> >> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org>> >> >> --->> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> --->> >> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org>> >> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org>> >> --->> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> --->> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org>> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org>> --->>>>>
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El sáb., 16 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 12:44, Genoperno Translucente (
fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:
> The problem is the presence of the parameter "nomodeset", removing> that I have no more problem.>
noted that i try to explain the consecuences of have one or another in the
prevoiusly emails.. but i was no so clear..
thanks for that! so please for others that read those mails please read
carefully both are exclusive not inclusive!
> Since this parameter is by default in alpine syslinux, do you think I> should open a bug report anyway?> Looking for similar issue in bug tracker I saw that recently another> person had the same problem (although with an amd video card instead> of intel): https://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/10040
i ave same problem in dell r15 with no lucky and seems the intel changes to
the kernel are not in sync with xorg
>>> 2019-03-15 13:48 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>:> > El vie., 15 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 01:49, Genoperno Translucente (> > fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:> >> >> APPEND modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage,i915,intel_agp quiet> >> nomodeset i915.modeset=0> >> Another strange thing is that it seemed to me that while the i915> >> module is loaded, intel_agp no and I had to use modprobe.> >>> >> > in my previous message i said that if you use both .. the usage of i915> and> > intel_agp are unuseless> >> >> >> However the error is always the same, with your previous message did> >> you mean that there was no solution unless there was an idea from> >> nathaniel?> >>> >> > WOW! ok if you use both.. you must setup manually intel xorg conf> > ok let me said that i only give you tips.. not a complete how to!> > just was for usage to point to a right direction!> >> > i not have good results in my DELL R15 inspiron.. sorry.. and i very busy> > to try ...> >> > maybe it's time to give more details and open an issue at alpine bug> > tracker> >> >> > remenber to put:> >> > * lspci results> > * hardware description (i mean kind of machine and name model)> > * version of alpine and kernel usage> > * xorg config if use> >> > among others minor details...> >> >> >> 2019-03-15 1:03 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <mckaygerhard@gmail.com>:> >> > currently linux are full of stupid windowsers develpers, updates and> >> > changes and updates..> >> >> >> > yeah, the "featured" mode setting is a stupid crap now.. with the> xcuse> >> of> >> > new this, new that, bullshit> >> >> >> > ok, to the right soluton, i915 and intel_agp drivers mus be added to> >> > the> >> > boot, as you can see> >> > at alpine start "modules=loop,squashfs,sd-mod,usb-storage" well, added> >> with> >> > a comma the> >> > wanted need modules i915 and intel_agp> >> >> >> > now what we have: nomodeset=0 will make work the intel driver as a> >> > normal> >> > vesa driver but> >> > with more little things, so also along with that we have that all> >> versions> >> > since 2.15> >> > of the Intel-driver seems only support KMS .. yeah more crap here!> >> >> >> > yeah that's the problem.. that's the reason why i used older versions> >> > of> >> > linux.. i recommended> >> > use older alpine version.. in the classmate intel pc i used alpine 3.6> >> > or> >> > 3.7 or debian only> >> >> >> > sorry and i calculed that nathaniel does not have other solution> >> > right?,> >> >> >> > El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 17:58, Genoperno Translucente (> >> > fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:> >> >> >> >> Thanks for the answer, you warn me that I see some graphical glitches> >> >> also from the shell, so I think you've found the right problem.> >> >> Not knowing what this kms is I searched on the net and found this> >> >> page:> >> >>> >>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting#Disabling_modesetting> >> >> My syslinux already was set by default the nomodeset, but that page> >> >> says that I must also set i915.modeset=0, and so I tried:> >> >> http://dpaste.com/0JR7GY4> >> >>> >> >> However, when I run startx with that option setted in the syslinux,> >> >> the GUI doesn't even start and Xorg returns this> >> >> error:http://dpaste.com/0K6ZDRB (I captured this error having also> >> >> removed nomodeset and only with i915.modeset=0 but I have the same> >> >> problemi)> >> >> Xorg -configure does not even work.> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> 2019-03-14 17:33 GMT+01:00, PICCORO McKAY Lenz <> mckaygerhard@gmail.com> >> >:> >> >> > deactivate the new kms and restart . that0s enought> >> >> > Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)> >> >> > http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > El jue., 14 de mar. de 2019 a la(s) 12:01, Genoperno Translucente (> >> >> > fz12345@gmail.com) escribió:> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yesterday I have installed alpine (extended x86_64) on a key.> >> >> >> I used this guide> >> >> >> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Create_a_Bootable_USB , so the> >> >> >> result must be a "diskless-mode".> >> >> >> After that I started setup-alpine and configured the distro> >> >> >> (leaving> >> >> >> the setup-disk on "none", setup-lbu on "usb" and setup-apkcache on> >> >> >> "/media/usb/cache").> >> >> >> I saved the settings with "lbu ci" and found that they were> >> >> >> preserved> >> >> >> on restart.> >> >> >> Next thing I know, I tried to follow this other guide to set a wm:> >> >> >> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/XFCE_Setup> >> >> >> So I started "setup-xorg-base", enable communy repo and update,> and> >> >> >> install xfce4 and xf86-video-intel (pc is a intel atom with> >> integrated> >> >> >> graphic card).> >> >> >> To be sure I have also installed mesa-dri-intel> >> >> >> I did another commit and so I tried to start the wm with "startx".> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Xfce is very slow to start (it loads one piece at times and many> of> >> >> >> the icons are not seen), but the main problem is that I see> >> >> >> artifacts> >> >> >> (such as small disturbances of the graphics) and often I see the> >> >> >> pointer in multiple positions simultaneously and when I move it,> >> >> >> the> >> >> >> pointer leaves a track that disappears later.> >> >> >> All these problems disappear when the composite manager of xfce is> >> >> >> deactivated (in setting > tweaks > composite) so I thought it was> a> >> >> >> problem with graphics acceleration.> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I tried an ubuntu studio live on the same PC with xfce and> >> >> >> composite> >> >> >> active without the same problem. The driver used seems to be the> >> >> >> same> >> >> >> in both distros (i915.ko).> >> >> >> If I understand correctly, this is the saying with the modules> >> >> >> installed by xorg "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/".> >> >> >> In alpine there are only 2 modules inside this dir: intel_drv.so> >> >> >> modesetting_drv.so> >> >> >> In ubuntu studio a little more (but i think a lot of this is not> >> >> >> usefull): amdgpu_drv.so fbdev_drv.so modesetting_drv.so> >> >> >> qxl_drv.so> >> >> >> vesa_drv.so ati_drv.so intel_drv.so nouveau_drv.so radeon_drv.so> >> >> >> vmware_drv.so> >> >> >>> >> >> >> I could not start Xorg -configure from ubuntu studio, but I make> >> >> >> one> >> >> >> from alpine: http://dpaste.com/38KBTA1> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> ---> >> >> >> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> >> >> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> >> >> ---> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ---> >> >> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> >> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> >> ---> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> ---> >> Unsubscribe: alpine-user+unsubscribe@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> Help: alpine-user+help@lists.alpinelinux.org> >> ---> >>> >>> >>