Received: from mail-oa1-x31.google.com (mail-oa1-x31.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::31]) by gbr-app-1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 084B3222601 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2025 13:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa1-x31.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-2eff5d1c7efso1804057fac.2 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 06:20:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1754659228; x=1755264028; darn=lists.alpinelinux.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=AjorYXTHsM84LkPIEdCXHNXDdEV3ItZ6whWj41XcQgE=; b=BN0TwXmilkrIwcx5Gg4zxVcD5JKbVvG6QdTfRpWPBmaFWCJHZukhN0f8E67cUyBiTg De5Y8Mp+X16osp/SlEgakjNh3jyWI4mvGz8yL9TkOYunWHszpENqugq3zlocjJCaxyeH TYZFbx+ll2Etos+w6BBGKDiBdS2xOdn0zF6eZ7haZOJ/pVc9ZZEWusiVzb6Xs7Jcv8pv 5tp2FIiOEaBF6q28RCXYEK5YJu6Bh8wASBmMcjgkE4IlupOAHL+aj3YI7KpUseYE4g8R 5LyPue2U352s52DpTiOTaHMWsBngWmHJaqaYD0t3LvBTQJ5GfQnHoCRFwSn/iWEvSK7s UWwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1754659228; x=1755264028; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=AjorYXTHsM84LkPIEdCXHNXDdEV3ItZ6whWj41XcQgE=; b=bDmB7sqr/JU1zelYwhGqEbSI+F8Eh92D046tFpFsqiV8xCRqLZPirUMFtWpaIYCimI aEqoNtUJuShXb+fc80hNOXZ9DPUQXkUkhX/kxOn5S9Vov+d7g6skd62bN9kz7j1Zw9xV LrzTQDPZSirK77oRF3ndAVs4d942kXF5bib7H07NirWmtfS+mMXrsWtFyvav21u/qXS2 VGEYiU3xPKhdKAfllQ6ulMQP18wwgbGRl4F0LYFaqRsA6dIQbYz7IP04OlfnfwOI26Yx ZR/KjY23Tu3uxKTNaVdhgXcBbT4QrfJXFgy5mSsPBd49l3orJ0y22A9CEXVkILbKdv3Y KFdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzRKH7nTnqsiA7g5jkyy6+0OnCZrjhWHvKN895RO+rReTKJQri8 0xEWSeBrIdTNoII/obD5rHmeMuIc/WflGgwBSG0jYew1whWOeQ3Q+eoD/d53qjX3+hH0ZcE9hBb zSilKKxU0XPX8opEpdS8v2r2ideTzumQ= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncudlh6Z70msC9MfEvTP5DIlQ1zrbqGz+gTwIWKmxjU2ic2bqT3H6XnwaxjLUj8 xeficaMIvPBZP4ERyqZOiY3gVvxhkTlM4MIRh8lSxWM7l5T6w9tjYmKQnyBeEOTEhmbipCa3nxE Sj5YxJ9wi7dNCMU4RobBVNCNtKxfeREhXXBN8GVzcCAeXb2e4Qg7S8g7xsRIpQ6At63Sw4QLPZ4 54n X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH+zqGhepThrEAl/ZznrJgBGpuJ2dtW8NatEV+ne47yzcXn/LlhMdM60eFJmSJuGxIqL3G5kiqYijfWT8MD9MQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:2216:b0:30b:6fa2:695a with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-30c20f1caf3mr1498779fac.11.1754659228081; Fri, 08 Aug 2025 06:20:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <681aa559-6aed-f1cc-8793-52504d67a1f6@libero.it> In-Reply-To: <681aa559-6aed-f1cc-8793-52504d67a1f6@libero.it> From: Konstantin Kulikov Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 16:20:16 +0300 X-Gm-Features: Ac12FXxvR1Ch0ERypW0dlwsnLeEqJfLXNK-paerVPcJg4kXwQldqaKmkGd1nERU Message-ID: Subject: Re: system boot & modloop To: Riccardo Mottola Cc: alpine-user@lists.alpinelinux.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fde376063bda6f92" --000000000000fde376063bda6f92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You're likely booting old kernel while having /lib/modules only for newer kernel. This can easily happen if you don't have /boot mounted RW before running apk upgrade. No idea about CD issues. On Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 1:43=E2=80=AFPM Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi all, > > I did a fresh install of 3.22 on a ThinkPad amd64. It was not clean, it > had FreeBSD and Windows. I wanted to keep dual booting and replace FreeBS= D. > I had installed Alpine previously on 32bit laptops without issues and > kept it up-to-date. > > Boot from the CD was problematic: it had consistent modloop issues, so > that the booted system had no ethernet nor wifi. > I looked on the internet and hints were about that existing partitioned > disk was an issue. I decided to use another Debian USB stick, format it > and reboot with alpine. DId not help > > At the end, the only fix was: > |modloop_verify=3Dno > > at boot and I could get into a working Alpine, as usual. I proceeded > with settup, used whole disk for simplicity. Rebooted and started > installing all classic stuff for X... nouveau worked, windowmanager, > basic stuff all fine! Unpacked data backup in my home. > > Poweroff & reboot next day, bad surprise: no ethernet, no framebuffer, > no anything. Appears the system is completely without modules. > I see no modloop errors though. I see no errors at all, except during > network setup where "no such devices" comes, for obvious reasons. Using > ||modloop_verify=3Dno now doesn't help either, because it is not a modloo= p > error. > > Any hints what is going wrong and how can debug? > > I tried checking "rc-service" and I see acpid is crashed, the rest is > running. > A check says it is beause of /dev/input/event0 missing > > I tried manually starting modloop with: > > rc-service modloop > > "modloop failed to start" but in messages find that no reason. Is this > expected on an installed system? > > Riccardo > ||| > --000000000000fde376063bda6f92 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You're likely booting old kernel while having /lib/mod= ules only=C2=A0for newer kernel. This can easily happen if you don't ha= ve /boot mounted RW before running apk upgrade. No idea about CD issues.
On Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 1:43=E2=80=AFPM Riccardo Mottola = <riccardo.mottola@libero.i= t> wrote:
Hi all,

I did a fresh install of 3.22 on a ThinkPad amd64. It was not clean, it had FreeBSD and Windows. I wanted to keep dual booting and replace FreeBSD.=
I had installed Alpine previously on 32bit laptops without issues and
kept it up-to-date.

Boot from the CD was problematic: it had consistent modloop issues, so
that the booted system had no ethernet nor wifi.
I looked on the internet and hints were about that existing partitioned disk was an issue. I decided to use another Debian USB stick, format it and reboot with alpine. DId not help

At the end, the only fix was:
|modloop_verify=3Dno

at boot and I could get into a working Alpine, as usual. I proceeded
with settup, used whole disk for simplicity. Rebooted and started
installing all classic stuff for X... nouveau worked, windowmanager,
basic stuff all fine! Unpacked data backup in my home.

Poweroff & reboot next day, bad surprise: no ethernet, no framebuffer, =
no anything. Appears the system is completely without modules.
I see no modloop errors though. I see no errors at all, except during
network setup where "no such devices" comes, for obvious reasons.= Using
||modloop_verify=3Dno now doesn't help either, because it is not a modl= oop
error.

Any hints what is going wrong and how can debug?

I tried checking "rc-service" and I see acpid is crashed, the res= t is
running.
A check says it is beause of /dev/input/event0 missing

I tried manually starting modloop with:

rc-service modloop

"modloop failed to start" but in messages find that no reason. Is= this
expected on=C2=A0 an installed system?

Riccardo
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