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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 19:18:41 +0100
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Subject: Re: PyPy and in general python (reported) bloat issue
To: Banibrata Dutta <banibrata.dutta@gmail.com>
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Any package relying on precompiled binary blobs to be "faster" will
eventually break portability, at some point.

This whole PyPy thing looks pretty fugly, like most Python-related stuff,
imho.

I'm pretty sure there are workarounds, but they require the user to do some
homework.

Canned stuff is something I've come to hate, seeing the package mess/hell
Ubuntu has become.



Il giorno dom 15 nov 2020 alle ore 18:25 Banibrata Dutta <
banibrata.dutta@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hi,
>
> AFAIK Alpine doesn't support PyPy or PyPy3 JIT compiler for Python. Is
> this true or did I somehow miss it's package in the repositories ?
>
> Also, came across this article:
> https://pythonspeed.com/articles/alpine-docker-python/  which states --
>
> But if you=E2=80=99re using Python, Alpine Linux will quite often:
>
>    1. Make your builds much slower.
>    2. Make your images bigger.
>    3. Waste your time.
>    4. On occassion, introduce obscure runtime bugs.
>
> Is there any plan or intent to change the above status-quo if true ?
>
> cheers,
> B
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Any package relying on precompiled binary blobs =
to be &quot;faster&quot; will eventually break portability, at some point.<=
br><br></div>This whole PyPy thing looks pretty fugly, like most Python-rel=
ated stuff, imho.<br><br></div><div>I&#39;m pretty sure there are workaroun=
ds, but they require the user to do some homework.<br><br></div><div>Canned=
 stuff is something I&#39;ve come to hate, seeing the package mess/hell Ubu=
ntu has become.<br><br><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Il giorno dom 15 nov 2020 alle ore 18:25 B=
anibrata Dutta &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:banibrata.dutta@gmail.com">banibrata.d=
utta@gmail.com</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>AFAIK=
 Alpine doesn&#39;t support PyPy or PyPy3 JIT compiler for Python. Is this =
true or did I somehow miss it&#39;s package in the repositories ?<br></div>=
<div><br></div><div>Also, came across this article:<a href=3D"https://pytho=
nspeed.com/articles/alpine-docker-python/" target=3D"_blank">https://python=
speed.com/articles/alpine-docker-python/</a>=C2=A0 which states --<br></div=
><div>
<p>But if you=E2=80=99re using Python, Alpine Linux will quite often:</p>

<ol><li>Make your builds much slower.</li><li>Make your images bigger.</li>=
<li>Waste your time.</li><li>On occassion, introduce obscure runtime bugs.<=
/li></ol>

</div><div>Is there any plan or intent to change the above status-quo if tr=
ue ?</div><div><br></div><div>cheers,</div><div>B<br></div><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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