Received: from mail-qk1-f169.google.com (mail-qk1-f169.google.com [209.85.222.169]) by nld3-dev1.alpinelinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8BAE37818AF for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 09:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk1-f169.google.com with SMTP id b18so3973924qkc.9 for <~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org>; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 02:32:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=answerminer-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZVfJrjmYAEmR6cWRgA7FTQjEkxSVPSGm7fbnkiYmNCc=; b=NKxGU2r/VagSBWr/D3k1MBsLZo8K8IGlpgCaAGiYM487uFB3upx6Ba3RUQC4w9TiW4 B9ZmMWZAGcXzAdsVafrAzRkm367LHKYMdvRYHOFm8CC7PGe5LBEZX+XbUyndH/e0600V TqI7ZhF3Mb6WApQrLXdZQfc937oDLHxMy69/EjS0x/ruipQZ+PBI00lcijlfKUaxQ/Vw obUopvndw5SZCwNPHLWJ1JK3TnA+hppSa6AdO6JCm4h6ZH/QwFI1QKhAHT9YW95V1YBf LbWVvlTKKcXxVS7EEPCEFonA+P5lDMZEuzszzIi41CHjwZDPkikBomcSlkhoA8JUX63p WGwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZVfJrjmYAEmR6cWRgA7FTQjEkxSVPSGm7fbnkiYmNCc=; b=i65zCD3cIRMozi8shcrEn+eGXpFmrTeiDgsD6BKj5TmOntCezCuAgQtubsJHKQ4IQr N8bm+EleO60rX5UhQ2vO8/6h3aAuqmav2tmMoRFqrS57iVCgoSzAbHHjDa1nEMCgo2A2 E0HC1/sAzdqi3KbU3cUyOvNtn1Roxu//cp4X31HtcYe2TM8N39MqR2GC9ut3WUfc5jRz RaWocl9d+Pec/Dn/XjoV5OPwUeUFxA4pp1J5UeFh/GSpKO/3I9nlnmh/stNgOXuxQjUG cBhCh788msHE9nCt6v5Duwi6LNetDnvSIWq/Ah6uebiA9BJ6jF6ZiOvJsMbOWHPaPbNV /xNA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53220e2Ybw5tLMDdlw+B0Z7Bo5Q/nrCn8VCrrlUhPcEpG1/ARqjr IgnwZN8Ftbt4bQVh+Nq3GYyzM6YTvqmOJIAxWsub7A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyeMUco0imjREpkTFIYyCAdSsHC0l8SEtyWA/lvNCF+WYzV6kIgEMH6NXy1RSH0VuLoArtGBwolfDdffJPQK5A= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:1322:: with SMTP id p2mr15179207qkj.211.1603704760313; Mon, 26 Oct 2020 02:32:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <09CDD2B5-1337-4316-B21C-F7B5758C1672@malikania.fr> <1989909.VscdN7sjDY@nanabozho> <20201026091544.e2627zfjxbsaaxh4@wolfsden.cz> In-Reply-To: <20201026091544.e2627zfjxbsaaxh4@wolfsden.cz> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Magyar_N=C3=A1ndor?= Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 09:32:29 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: wayland support vs xorg support in alpine! To: Wolf Cc: PICCORO McKAY Lenz , Ariadne Conill , ~alpine/users@lists.alpinelinux.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000903d8605b28f9c74" --000000000000903d8605b28f9c74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I also typed this exact previous message twice, but I was also afraid that is also a violation and now I am sending it. Telling people that it was a joke or exaggeration is also not ok, because this is a place for serious & professional discussions. Neither of the above should involve any type of sarcasm or jokes. Please note that with a language also comes its habits and cultural norms (syntax + semantics) - if you are not native english. I have never really contacted anyone here ever, but I am a big fan of Alpine and I like to see you all grow and toxicity won't help and a waste of time and energy. I appreciate all the work done by every one of you, including PICCORO. I am unsure if it does even matter, but please consider being a bit less toxic. Regards, Nandor On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 9:16 AM Wolf wrote: > Ok I will say it out loud (not sure if breaking the CoC by it): this > guys seems toxic. > > On 2020-10-22 16:10:11 -0400, PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote: > > please point me where the telegram group said "oficial" ok! stop liying! > > Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO) > > http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com > > Could you please, please, choose a bit less confrontational approach to > communication? Exclamation marks everywhere, accusing people of lying, > taking shortcuts and cherry-picking arguments... This aggressive style > does not seem to be very productive and it does not have positive > influence on the community. Please consider changing it. > > Thank you, > > W. > > -- > There are only two hard things in Computer Science: > cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors. > --000000000000903d8605b28f9c74 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also typed this exact previous message twice, but I= was also afraid that is also a violation and now I am sending it.

Telling people that it was a joke or exaggeration is also = not ok, because this is a place for serious & professional discussions.=
Neither of the above should involve any type of sarcasm or jokes= .

Please note that with a language also comes its = habits and cultural norms (syntax + semantics) - if you are not native engl= ish.

I have never really contacted anyone here eve= r, but I am a big fan of Alpine and I like to see you all grow and toxicity= won't help and a waste of time and energy.
I appreciate all = the work done by every one of you, including PICCORO.

I am unsure if it does even matter, but please consider being a bi= t less toxic.

<= div>
Regards,
Nandor


On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 9:16 AM Wolf <wolf@wolfsden.cz> wrote:
Ok I will say it out loud (not sure if= breaking the CoC by it): this
guys seems toxic.

On 2020-10-22 16:10:11 -0400, PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote:
> please point me where the telegram group said "oficial" ok! = stop liying!
> Lenz McKAY Gerardo (PICCORO)
> http://qgqlochekone.blogspot.com

Could you please, please, choose a bit less confrontational approach to
communication? Exclamation marks everywhere, accusing people of lying,
taking shortcuts and cherry-picking arguments... This aggressive style
does not seem to be very productive and it does not have positive
influence on the community. Please consider changing it.

Thank you,

W.

--
There are only two hard things in Computer Science:
cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors.
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